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  • Remote Viewing - Joseph 'Joe' McMoneagle online, 04Jan96, CIS:NAF sponsor: The Monroe Institute.
    or some one who has passed on Joe McMoneagle You actually get some information but you can only go so far and then you aren t permitted to go much futher There are controls that seem to be out of the remote viewer s hands Rosemary Booth Are you given ground rules by the other side Chris Carey Mod Can you be a little more specific with an example Joe McMoneagle Yes I was remote viewing a guy who was killed in an accident and at the point that he actually died I had the sense that I was being prevented from further exploration by many layers of cloth or mesh No spirit blocking me but something almost mechanical Jeff Joe you discerned this RV ability only after your near death experience what was in the NDE that changed you Joe McMoneagle Well give me a second I think it was the realization that we don t die That we just transit into another state that things are totally different than we might think they are I wasn t prepared for that sudden knowledge Bruce Last time I was in Virginia you talked about a project involving recordings of drumming and a water tank Done any more with that lately Joe McMoneagle Not yet Lack the funds I don t have much trouble doing the sound part it s the building of the floatation tank that s holding stuff up One of the interesting things about sound is that we live our lives in it and don t notice the effects Jeff Was there some organic change to your brain nervous system or simply an increased awareness George Anderson became aware of his abilities after an early childhood illness Joe McMoneagle Well Jeff not that I notice I believe that my sensitivity to what s going on around me is probably a little more intense than most Also I probably don t pay attention to the same things that most people do from a day to day basis Jeff back to Bruce s question the object of the drums and tank was Joe McMoneagle I ll explain I want to build a floatation tank in which to tesk certain sounds The experiment is to completely emerse the entire body in sound and I found that there are certain Indian drum beats that create repetitive images in some people So I want to combine the two and do some drumming and sound and floatation experiments Bruce Sealed speakers in some body elses hot tub maybe Joe McMoneagle Can t be done that way I ll explain why They have to be a special kind of speaker to get a full wave transmission to the water the tub design has to be such that it doesn t interfere with cross waves or bouncing wave fronts the space around the body has to be measured and adjustable according to the person using it It all needs focus Bruce I see Jeff Have you

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  • Remote Viewing - Brief Bio for remote viewer Joseph 'Joe' McMoneagle.
    sighting and numerous spontaneous out of body episodes he was one of the original Intelligence Officers recruited for the Army program now known as STAR GATE While there he earned a Legion of Merit award for providing critical intelligence reported at the highest echelons of our military and government including such national level agencies as The Joint Chiefs of Staff DIA NSA CIA DEA and the Secret Service producing crucial and vital intelligence unavailable from any other source Following his retirement from the Army in 1984 he maintained his association with the STAR GATE program through his own company Intuitive Intelligence Applications working as a remote viewing consultant to the Cognitive Sciences Laboratories at SRI International and Science Applications International Corporation until the program was formally closed in November of 1995 Joe is currently a Research Associate with the Laboratories for Fundamental Research in Palo Alto where he continues to research and explore for more effective answers to questions concerning the applications of remote viewing its underlying mechanisms and within the field of the paranormal He has successfully demonstrated remote viewing within acceptable protocols live and on camera in numerous network broadcasts shown in America and England the most notable

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  • Remote Viewing - Resume for remote viewer Joseph 'Joe' McMoneagle.
    MD 1977 1978 Officer in Charge Office for Emitter Location and Identification United States Army Intelligence and Security Command Office of Operations Arlington VA 1975 1977 Counter Intelligence and Physical Security Officer United States Army Security Agency Field Station Augsburg Germany 1964 1975 Operations Specialist Senior Non Commissioned Officer United States Army Security Agency Many foreign assignments S PECIALIZED E XPERIENCE Mr McMoneagle has 31 years of professional expertise in research and development in numerous multi level technical systems and in the social sciences Experience includes experimental protocol design collection and evaluation of statistical information prototype design and testing Automatic Data Processing equipment and technology interface management and systems analysis Was responsible for all research and development of new and current technology planning management support maintenance funding training and personnel at a Major U S Army Command Practical experience also includes historical reporting theory and application and general contracting A WARDS Legion of Merit Meritorious Service Medal 2 awards Army Commendation Medal 3 awards Good Conduct Ribbon 5 awards National Defense Service Medal Vietnam Service Medal Non Commissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon 3 awards Army Service Ribbon Overseas Service Ribbon 2 awards Vietnam Campaign Medal 5 campaigns Presidential Unit Citation

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  • Remote Viewing - Firedocs Collection - News Articles
    Crystal ball had a place next to cloak and dagger Richmond Times Dispatch 29 November 1995 ABC puts Nelson man s psychic skills to the test The Daily Progress Charlottesville Virginia 30 November 1995 Up Close Personal with a Remote Viewer Joe McMoneagle Defends the Secret Project The Washington Post 04 December 1995 Psychic s government role revealed Nelson County Times Nelson Virginia 07 December 1995 All logos and original

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  • Remote Viewing - Firedocs Collection - Media Articles
    Koestler Institute believes it can show that extra sensory perception does exist Remote Viewing an interview with Joseph McMoneagle Magical Blend Magazine Issue 52 All logos and original content Copyright 1996 1998 to Palyne PJ Gaenir All rights reserved THE

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  • The Firedocs Remote Viewing Collection: PJ's Archives: Transcript: END OF THE LINE / Sightings on the Radio with host Jeff Rense and guests Joe McMoneagle and Edwin C May
    gee they really are they re just not telling you about it and of course that s always possible RENSE How possible is that MAY Unlikely because at least I know quite well most of the US s best psychics or remote viewers and none of them have been contacted that I know RENSE So it would be difficult to put one past you then MAY It would be difficult RENSE OK So why isn t the government as interested now as it used to be MAY Well the world s changed We don t have a strategic adversary like the Soviet Union Now the questions we re asking are things like gee where is that terrorist bomber and who did the Oklahoma bombing case and so on And those questions are a little harder to answer by Remote Viewing that s one problem and another one is we re all concerned about shrinking budgets correctly we don t want the government to spend as much of our money as they used to in days gone by So there s less funds and there s more competition MAY Amazing answer So if Joe McMoneagle can hit 80 and have an 80 accuracy rate I find it hard to believe the government wouldn t extend for that RENSE Me too MAY OK Good answer Hour number 1 with Dr Edwin May is now complete we ll be back right after news with Joe McMoneagle and Dr Ed May here at the End of the Line break RENSE Welcome back everybody hour number two Joining Dr Edwin May a U S physicist for the second hour and the third hour as well is Joe McMoneagle one of the six original government top secret military remote viewers Joe McMoneagle was the only subject who stayed in the program its entire period of existence from October 1978 right on through November 1995 He was also one of only two subjects who participated in both the applications side and the R D side of remote viewing Joe McMoneagle has now done over 4000 remote viewings for the record meaning under strict controls He has done seven put to the test type RV s where he has done remote viewings on camera live while under very strict controls Those include an ABC news special Reader s Digest home video and several other programs including a live remote view for CNN Generally speaking Joe McMoneagle s statistics for 19 years are like this out of any 100 targets he can be expected to hit the target about 55 60 of the time Of the targets he hits on he will get anywhere from 45 85 correct information on the average on those target On the targets he hits on about 15 50 of the drawings of those targets will be near perfect overlays for the photographs of the actual target almost as if as you heard Dr Ed May say they were traced right over the photograph So remarkable talent very happy to have him with us for this hour hello to Joe McMoneagle Hi Joe MCMONEAGLE Hello Jeff how are you RENSE Fine thank you This is a very sophisticated field that we re talking about tonight very interesting full of lots of strange energies even if Ed May says you can t influence other people s minds Ed laughs my mind is alive and alert I don t know folks I ve walked into rooms full of people all my life and I ve found people put out vibrations if you want to call it that and I don t know how you d feel about that Joe but do you think people can sense other people s thoughts and feelings pretty easily sometimes MCMONEAGLE Well it may occur spontaneously I ve seen a couple of experiments where we ve captured the essence of something like that in a lab scenario But for the most part I think when people walk into a room what they re doing is they re processing the room in its entirety I mean someone crossing their arms the wrong way can deliver a message so it may be subtle but it may not necessarily be psychic RENSE Interesting So we see in our daily lives through our five senses all sorts of things that can predispose reactions and trigger reactions MCMONEAGLE Oh absolutely Just the way you present yourself to someone will have an effect RENSE How is that you stayed in this program as long as you did MCMONEAGLE Well mostly I was lucky in that I was able to spend a great deal of it in the research side where my curiosity probably kept me going I m not sure I could have lasted that length of time had I just stayed in the military or the applications side of the program RENSE When you first became interested in this field how did the government actually latch onto you What was the mechanism involved MCMONEAGLE Well originally what they did is they actually designed a criteria or a list of criteria that they felt would probably identify individuals that had some talent They didn t know if this would work or not but in the development of those criteria they then went around and interviewed hundreds of individuals within the Army intelligence command and I fell out as a result of some of those interviews RENSE Hmmn And you first met Ed May when MCMONEAGLE I actually met Ed May when I first went out to SRI in October of 1978 to be exposed to remote viewing He participated in some of my original six experiments was either the outbounder or participated in some way RENSE With respect to working as a remote viewer for all these years there were six of you Were you a tight knit group did you know each other well did you spend time together in this program MCMONEAGLE The original six people we were very much a tight knit group In the original group there were two women but they did not stay in the program very long as the structure of the command was not supportive to women at the time So they felt that they weren t being given as much respect perhaps as the male participants RENSE Was there a lot of pressure on you because of the Cold War were you aware of the fact that you were in a very top secret position and did you feel some sort of incumbent responsibility to exercise your talents any more creatively than you otherwise might MCMONEAGLE Well actually I was in an extremely important position when I was recruited for the project and it was with curiosity that I actually started my participation Originally I was working part time in the project and the project was designed to just address the issue of whether or not it could be done What unfortunately happened is we were overtaken by a serious situation which was the Iran hostage scenario and as a result of the difficulties in collecting intelligence on that we were given the task of trying to target it And it worked so well in fact that it sort of opened the barn doors RENSE Can you share any of that with us tonight MCMONEAGLE Well I can talk a little bit about the Iran hostage problem One of the difficulties of course was the inaccessibility to the embassy compound in Tehran Using remote viewers we were able to produce some interesting insights with regard to who was holding the hostages where they were being held their conditions their mental and physical state We were addressing problems such as which would be a possible ingress egress route to the compound booby traps that might have been set a whole raft of different things RENSE Now you re mentioning a lot of things here you re not talking too specifically about them but I get the impression that these were the areas that you had some success with MCMONEAGLE We had a number of significant successes We also had a number of just outright failures It was a new process and we were trying to adapt it to an emergency situation RENSE Joe were you involved in any way in planning that attempted you must have been hostage rescue mission that went so terribly awry in the desert MCMONEAGLE Well there s a lot of reasons why that happened Let s just say that I think the President made the right decision when he decided to call that particular raid off RENSE Hmmn OK What are some of the misbeliefs about what you did with the government What do people think that happened that really didn t happen MCMONEAGLE There s a lot of misconceptions about remote viewing that have sort of been birthed out of the media frenzy that followed the disclosure about the project Some of those beliefs are that remote viewing can be used very well for locating missing people or lost objects that sort of thing and in fact that s probably one of the most difficult things that it can be used for there s a lot of complications that come about when you re trying to use it for location purposes There s also a misconception that it s used to specifically target individuals in some way that s nefarious when in fact the only reason for even having a person as a target would be to obtain a description of the location in which they might be standing that it would be important for another reason RENSE Let s talk about the Gulf War There was a lot of talk that there was a big priority on killing Saddam Hussein were the remote viewers used to your knowledge at that time to try and locate Saddam Hussein can you talk about that MCMONEAGLE What I can say about it is that in my perception no one was targeted against this Saddam Hussein for you know an attempt on his life or anything directly In reality what we do know is that in the beginning of a conflict or a war that we re going to be involved in the head commander or the leader of the nation that you re fighting is more than likely going to be locating himself within proximity to his centralized command and control center or his center of communications If you don t know specifically where that is and you have a possible say four locations then remote viewing can provide you with a sufficient description of perhaps a building or a location that will then help identify which of those locations they may be located in RENSE You had a long career in the military You re a remote viewer now and you re given a target are you given all the parameters for that target are you told in a total sense what the mission is about or are you pretty much pigeonholed and kept focused on one item MCMONEAGLE No actually the way the targeting is done the actual target material is selected by someone who does not participate in the collection of the information It may be a black and white photograph showing the roof of a building or it may be a picture of a doorway leading into a specific building and that s given of course to the remote viewer by someone who also has no knowledge of what that means And that may come with a question like Can you draw a diagram of the floor plan for the building to which this is the doorway RENSE And that s it MCMONEAGLE That s it And then based on what you might draw they may come back and say we have an interest in this room you labeled the D room or room 13 or whatever RENSE Now Dr May you re still there MAY Yes I am RENSE Good Anything to contribute at this point MAY Well I would like to back up in the introduction the statistics you gave for Joe s lifelong career statistics and I can say having been part of most of that in the laboratory it s not at all an exaggeration which is what one hears often too much in this field RENSE Joe how do you feel about these people and I ll name names here they re out there in public Courtney Brown who allegedly studied remote viewing under Ed Dames Ed Dames in particular has lately been talking about some large cylindrical object traveling with the Hale Bopp comet which is supposedly full of deadly pathogens of one kind or another ah how do you feel about that after having been in the program for much of your professional life MCMONEAGLE Well my experience you know I can t comment on where they re getting their ideas but what I can say is based on my own experience and what I ve observed I don t know a single person that participated in the program that was a good remote viewer that didn t spend somewhat in excess of two years in training and that by training I mean exposure to remote viewing and hammering away at it practicing on a day to day basis for that two year period So I don t know anyone s being taught in the amount of time they say they re being taught in RENSE So 3000 in 10 days makes no sense to you MCMONEAGLE No in fact most of the technology can be delivered in probably about eight or nine hours MAY Jeff may I butt in here for a second RENSE Sure MAY What s very clear from Mr Dames s own personal records is that he was never never underlined a remote viewer for the Army project His role in that was an interviewer to interview other remote viewers He was not a remote viewer MCMONEAGLE That s correct RENSE Interesting And he he taught Courtney Brown as I understand it MAY Right MCMONEAGLE That s what I understand RENSE He has been quoted as saying he is not happy with Courtney Brown because Mr Brown didn t finish the program and then went off and launched his own school to teach it There is some interesting backbiting going on there MAY I had the experience of listening to Ed Dames while I think he was interviewed on another talk show overnight Where he made that claim about there s some serious pathogen that he remote viewed accompanying the comet and quite frankly I feel in my own view that that s exceptionally irresponsible in the following way Let s give Ed Dames the benefit of the doubt and say he has a hit rate as good as Joe McMoneagle s and he s accurate say gets the right answer in a lab setting 50 of the time That means he s got a 50 50 chance of this being wrong And to scare an awful lot of innocent people with this seeming authority is just irresponsible to all concerned in my view RENSE Yeah Alright we re gonna pause here for a couple of moments and come right back with Joe McMoneagle and Dr Ed May here at The End of the Line break RENSE Welcome back everyone we re talking to Dr Edwin May and Joe McMoneagle Dr May has been involved with the remote viewing program that this government has been funding off and on for many years he s probably in a position unique on the planet Joe McMoneagle arguably the most studied accomplished remote viewer we have ever had I m very proud to have both these people on the program We re here tonight to try to clear the air about remote viewing what it is how it works what it can do to try to cut through some of the hype and there has been an awful lot of that on the internet literally going out to millions of people at the speed of light without a countermanding force or a filter to put it through to get any kind of a real handle on it It s a tough situation gentlemen Let me ask you some direct questions And before I do that let me suggest to you that I have invited both Ed Dames and Courtney Brown on to this program recently and have not heard a word from either of them we did have Courtney on about a year ago when his book first came out so they are both welcome to come on the program in the future if anyone s listening who knows them by all means extend the invitation yet again Let me ask you a direct question Joe McMoneagle The concept of remote viewing an object accompanying a comet as Courtney Brown claims that I believe his nine best remote viewers were asked to do the concept of doing that and coming back with all nine saying the same thing that it was a sentient object and had essentially evil intentions toward the planet earth and so forth what does that concept do to you as a professional MCMONEAGLE Well uh laughs my experience from 19 years of remote viewing is simply this if you take ten remote viewers and use exactly the same targeting material under the most ideal research conditions or applications conditions and get ten remote viewings of a target and nine say one thing in agreement essentially and one differs from the previous nine it is just as likely that the tenth or differing individual will be correct and the nine won t be That is in fact the way it usually happens There is no proof whatsoever that consensus of remote viewers adds any weight whatsoever to the correctness of the viewing MAY In fact I would go one step further there s a lot of evidence suggested in the laboratory that if three people walk into the room we all notice similar things It s the person who notices the odd thing that tends to be more often correct and so it seems to be true in remote viewing in the laboratory as well RENSE Have either of you read Courtney Brown s book MCMONEAGLE I have MAY I have also RENSE An opinion on it MCMONEAGLE I can proffer an opinion purely on what he says about his own remote viewing He talks in there about five or six methods that he uses for remote viewing and none of those methods except I believe method 5 is even closely related to actual remote viewing protocol Method 5 would be a valid protocol if there s a guarantee that the person who is working with the remote viewer also has no knowledge of the target But I m not sure that s not the case MAY My comment s similar that many of these people to be fair to them are probably well meaning While I m not in a position of accusing them to be fraudulent in any sort of way the problem is most of these individuals at least the ones we ve spoken about are not even if they re scientists as Courtney Brown claims to be and I think he s an engineer are not familiar with the specific idiosyncrasies of doing science in a remote viewing domain It s quite a bit different than doing science in even normal psychological domain So you know it s not it s completely understandable that they would write books with massive flaws in them and Joe just pointed out a handful RENSE Joe David Morehouse another one of the military s remote viewers has written a book called Psychic Viewers I believe MCMONEAGLE Psychic Warrior RENSE Psychic Warrior it s a rather sensational book I m told I have not read it Let me get your read on that for those listening in who have read his book and are interested in his position MCMONEAGLE Well I you know the book is predominantly his perception of things and when you start dealing with someone s perceptions you certainly can t argue with those With regard to the remote viewing what he says about remote viewing I my sense of it is that a lot of it s oversimplified and a lot of what he says about remote viewing are comments that would be made by someone who has just finished training or is in the processes of being trained as a remote viewer So they sort of they re oversimplistic in their description and that sort of thing RENSE Ed MAY Yes RENSE We re gonna take a break and when we come back let s discuss Jim Schnabel who has written another rather sensational book about remote viewing and kinda take care of the tabloid aspect of this issue Alright we ll be right back gentlemen in just a couple of minutes break RENSE Alright welcome back Gentlemen the other book out there that is commonly talked about in addition to David Morehouse s book Psychic Warrior and Courtney Brown s book Cosmic Voyage is one by Jim Schnabel called Remote Viewers Dr May you first MAY Well I read Mr Schnabel s book and I ve read some of the work that he s written on the topic in overseas papers and the like My take is this if you re going to be an investigative reporter there are really two requirements one of which Schnable actually needs That is you need to get second sources in other words two separate sources for any piece of information you have because somebody could be lying or you know misrepresenting the truth in some way But having found two sources you must also investigate whether or not those two sources are independent of each other Because they both might tell the exact same lie for whatever reason RENSE Kind of sounds like Journalism 101 to me MAY Definitely Journalism 101 In my opinion having been as close to this program as I ve been since 1976 Mr Schnabel failed miserably at the second part of that job and thus there are gross inaccuracies ranging from the trivial such as he says Mr Swann s remote viewing falls in three classes A B and C and he misrepresents what those classes actually are from the trivial example to some of the really important examples which I can t go into because of their current level of classification RENSE Yes MCMONEAGLE I agree with what Ed s saying I have an additional problem It is apparent to me from what I know about the program that there were probably a handful of individuals that essentially gave him the material that he used for his book and in fact some of those individuals do have an axe to grind with regard to some of the other members in the program RENSE You re talking about disinformation MCMONEAGLE Right sighs it s not so much telling lies as it is leaving things out or lying by omission RENSE That s just as bad of a lie as a lie when you leave something out intentionally MCMONEAGLE Well it is when it in my opinion when it does a gross disservice to some of the other individuals that have contributed to the program Some of his comments regarding some of the women participants in the program and some of the participants at SRI or later at SAIC were unconsciounable MAY There s another very serious problem Without risking revealing or verifying or not any piece of information in Schnabel s book if what some of the former Army personnel were saying and interviewed in Jim Schnabel s book is true then it is now a big IF then they are in direct violation of their security agreements and should be thrown in jail On the other hand if it isn t true then this book shouldn t have been called a non fiction book it should be a greater work of fiction In either of those cases there are serious problems with the book RENSE Hmmmn OK let me go back to brass tacks Joe in your career as a remote viewer over 4000 remote viewings under controls you did a lot of work for the government from October 78 to November 1995 Can you tell us about some of the more famous or infamous events of this past 20 years that you may have played a role in you and the other remote viewers MCMONEAGLE Well like Ed had said before and I have to reiterate about 99 of this program is still within the realms of classification However there have been some that were exposed as a result of the American Institutes for Research study that was done and published unclassified One of the examples I can give had to do with a submarine that was being constructed in the extreme North of the Soviet Union in 1979 Essentially we were given a photograph of a building at least a section of a roof of a building and asked to describe what was going on inside the building There were two or three of us Viewers not just myself but two or three of us who independently drew segments of what appeared to be a submarine At the time the consensus of opinion throughout the intelligence world was that they were actually building some kind of an assault ship for loading and unloading helicopters and troops As it turned out we were able to predict a launch date and they in fact photographed this submarine that we had drawn with the appropriate number of missile tubes and what was not and then it was launched within a few days of that date RENSE Pretty spectacular You were decorated with the Legion of Merit award that s the highest honor given in the intelligence community to anyone for your work any other things you can share with us I understand the National Security constraints but this is very fascinating and it s very much important I think that we get the truth out here as much as we can MCMONEAGLE Well we did track a number of people that were kidnapped by terrorists And while I can t mention a lot of names we were able to describe accurately where they were being held the buildings that they were being held in and through later verification with some hostages that were held with those people it verified what our information had been months earlier it had been correct Of course no one could act on that information other than use it as a method for perhaps targeting perhaps other collection systems I was able to produce the name of the town unclear in Italy and describe with some detail the actual location that an American General was being held in when he was taken as a hostage by the Red Brigade RENSE Interesting Very very interesting When you say you can locate hostages are you given targets of the actual hostages to go for are you given profiles of the terrorists are you given the geographical location or picture of a building how does it work MCMONEAGLE In the case of General Dozier as an example they knew the length of time between when he was actually kidnapped and the discovery of the fact that he had been kidnapped and that was something in excess of six hours and since he was taken from his home in Northern Italy that gave them access essentially to almost all Western Europe in terms of moving him somewhere So the only information that I was given was a photograph of the General his name and I was asked to describe the location in which he was being held No one had any idea which country he was even being held in at the time RENSE And you were correct MCMONEAGLE Yes I was the only one who produced the actual name of the city that he was being held in RENSE The General was essentially then lost but you were able to pinpoint him He ultimately was murdered as I recall MCMONEAGLE No no he was actually he was released or he was rescued actually by the Italian paramilitary police What had happened is while my information was enroute from America by courier they had received a tip from a relative of one of the kidnappers and had taken action on it So as he was being released my information actually arrived MAY Jeff I have an amusing story about this situation if you can imagine such a thing I m not sure Joe knows about this But we at SRI were given a remote viewing task by the intelligence community and it was an odd one And it was two weeks before President Reagan was to light the Christmas tree ceremony to do that function sometime December 17 we were asked is there anything special about that date Because it was thought that there was some terrorist activity that was going to occur at that date And our remote viewer fellow by the name of Gary who likes to work these problems without knowing anything at all about the problem so we just said well Gary what can you tell us about the problem of the date And he said well a senior military official is gonna be snatched off the street in Italy And we said well hmmmn when we got that information we went back to the client said there s nothing in here about a terrorist activity in the US at the Christmas tree lighting ceremony Well that was the exact date General Dozier was snatched off the street RENSE How interesting wow Well Dr May you presided over 85 of the data that has been produced to date in this program that s a long way to look back I would think moments of a sense of humor would have to be with you or you wouldn t have been able to make it Pretty serious business MAY That s a prime requisite to surviving this field I think Joe would agree laughs MCMONEAGLE Well actually there is something I d like to add about humor One of the interesting things about remote viewing of course is that we rely on all of our perceptions in terms of what we re trying to understand about the information we re trying to translate And part of the paranormal delivery of that information is with humor And so there are a lot of humorous things that occur where information just seems to be delivered within the context of humor RENSE Oh that s very interesting Alright we re gonna pause here for our next short commercial time out and come right back with Dr Ed May and Joe McMoneagle break RENSE Alright we re back with Joe McMoneagle when you talked about General Dozier Joe I was thinking of the CIA station chief in Beruit who got kidnapped what was that case about and did you have anything to do with that one MCMONEAGLE Actually it was a Colonel Higgens I believe that was his name He was moved around quite frequently from area to area over an extended period of time And over that extended period of time he was murdered by his captors RENSE Were you folks involved in trying to track him can you talk about that at all MCMONEAGLE He was actually tracked by us and fairly accurately of course there was no way to know at the time that the descriptions we were giving matched fairly closely with many of the locations that he was actually being held in That was later confirmed by other hostages that had been held with him RENSE Alright what we re gonna do is give the phone number out now 1 800 298 8255 If you have any questions about remote viewing you won t get a better opportunity than this one to ask two of the best on the planet Damien has called in early from Florida and go ahead Damien you re on the air CALLER dryly Man I feel so safe when I hear these fine fine intelligence officers I d like to ask them something In what as known as your in other words you guys are so sharp why don t you report that in 1953 Eisenhower with John Foster Dulles gave the order for the assassination of a great leader by the name of Laboomba sp that eventually let s see who was the station chief down there at that time a gentleman named Frank Carlucci and you know who Carlucci was RENSE Damien are you talking about Patrice Lamoomba the African leader CALLER Yes RENSE Well that wasn t 1953 that was subsequent to that and we re getting a little off the subject here do you have a direct question you want to ask That s fine if you do CALLER Well I ah OK I would like to know in what year the CIA got involved in the biological warfare because we started it you know that RENSE OK alright that s a little bit askew here but we ll ask if either one of the gentlemen want to comment about the nefarious world of biological chemical warfare weaponry that we re so deeply involved with didn t have much to do with remote viewing but were you called upon at any time Joe to try to do any remote viewing regarding anyone else s chemical and biological warfare weapons MCMONEAGLE There were numerous occasions when we did target biologic warfare facilities I can t say when or where but we did do that I of course was an Army intelligence officer so I don t know a great deal about most of what the CIA does although I did remote viewing for the CIA MAY Let me reiterate as I said earlier that the CIA had very little direct involvement in the day to day activity they certainly tracked it and did some tasking but most of the work was handled by DIA and other intelligence agencies RENSE Alright we re gonna take our next break and come back Give us a call and your questions will be answered by two of the best right here at The End of the Line break RENSE OK we should tell you that Joe McMoneagle has a book called Mind Trek coming out in about a month from Hampton Roads Publishing it was first published in 1993 obviously a book to get and to read maybe the best one yet in the field There is a web site for Dr Ed May I ll give you that for those of you online www jsasoc com csl And we will go to the phones now Jim is listening in by satellite in Vermont Hi Jim you re on the air CALLER You got a great show RENSE Thank you Sir Jeff one thing you re not afraid to be the devil s advocate and the two gentlemen you have with you have been really honest RENSE I think you re right CALLER You know it s not like the Courtney Brown and Ms Calabrese RENSE Prudence Calabrese CALLER They seem to have disappeared off the map here for awhile I don t know what his guests think of that RENSE Well the heat in the kitchen got a little hot I think CALLER I would say so And you haven t been afraid to say you know penny wise pound foolish and let the

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  • The Firedocs Remote Viewing Collection: PJ's Archives: Transcript: Joseph McMoneagle on the Jeff Rense Sightings on the Radio show June 1 1997
    No I think it probably happens with many of them and they just don t talk about that phase JEFF Oh How interesting JOE One of the things that does occur somewhere in that six month period you reach a bottom point in that depression where you suddenly realize that well since you know that consciousness continues and you don t really cease to exist as an individual there s no real reason to be depressed about where you are It sort of gives you a freedom to play And by play I mean be able to make decisions now based on how you actually feel things should be versus based on fear Which is a very relieving kind of JEFF What a liberation My goodness That s remarkable That s one of the things that depression though let s talk about the other one after we break for news here Joe it is the top of the hour other chatter about upcoming radio items break Real Audio Counter 01 00 20 JEFF And welcome back to hour number two I m Jeff Rense you re listening to Sightings on the Radio on the Premiere Radio Network My guest tonight Joseph McMoneagle back for his third visit on the program Always a wonderful experience talking to Joe he has been through so many things in life we are talking now about the near death experience he had in 1970 And he made the unusual remark and I haven t heard this too often and he went through why that he went through a very severe period of depression for about six months after the near death experience and actually considered suicide at one point to try to get back to that state of utter peace and tranquility and the embracing of the universal consciousness What other things Joe did you experience as a result of this near you can almost call it an after death experience I guess couldn t you JOE Right you know in fact that s probably a more correct term Obviously since I m still here I might not have been as near death as I think I was but one of the major effects that you don t normally talk about but actually happens with nearly everyone you have a tendency to look at your spirituality differently People either go one of two ways after a near death experience they usually externalize their spirituality and seek support say from their formal religion or a religious leader And usually the response is somewhat parochial or dogmatic And some of the dogmatic parts don t hold up any longer under the experience JEFF I wouldn t think so JOE Many people as a result then internalize it it then becomes a they embrace it more as a matter of conscience and that drives the primary issues which are then addressed which might be anything from what the limits of personal responsibility might be or the redefinition of good and evil to constructive versus destructive more something even more importantly the fact that science and spirituality essentially can t ignore one another that we as human beings are essentially built in two parts one part is the physical or the science side and the other part is very definitely the spiritual side Integrate our appreciation for awareness unclear is what that means JEFF When you see the news read the newspaper and you come across stories of death tragedies plane crashes wars how do you feel about the people that die now JOE I don t I actually don t feel badly about some of the people that die or most of the people that die Where my pain really exists is with the people that are left behind We become very attached to one another in a relationship way and you can t but feel the pain a parent has to the loss of a child You can t help but feel the pain that a husband and wife might have should one of them depart I think it would be nice for them to know in reality though that their loved one continues to exist as a conscious entity and with a full identity JEFF I think it merits repeating that by way of a statement to anyone listening tonight about death because we spend so much time that may be the ultimate question of course during our time on this plane our conscious time in your opinion there is absolutely no reason to fear death JOE That s correct In fact many of our decisions in life are made based on that fear JEFF Oh yes Our actions from our political leaders all the way down to the homeless person on the street is making decisions on a moment to moment basis on that fear of death instead of making them on the constructive or the destructive possibilities There are certainly times when decisions are very tough to make And if we can understand that we have a certain moral obligation to other human beings then we can make a more righteous decision if we re making it based on that versus our fears of what we might have to contend with if we made those decisions JEFF How do you feel after your experience Joe about the taking of human life about murdering about killing in uniform about the actual participation in the ending of someone s conscious life on this planet JOE I have a great problem with that now Personally pause I have done a lot of things as a soldier that I probably wouldn t do again I think every human being has a right to change however My conviction is the conviction to which I m wedded at the moment is that every human being has as much right to life as any other I was once a great supporter of the death penalty for certain crimes However in my experience I ve now changed that position I think that no human being has the right to take the life of another human being No matter what the crime is that they might have committed You do have the right to control them to put them in prison or to punish them but we do not have the right to take their life JEFF Without getting too far afield because the topic tonight is remote viewing though this is all really tied together of course in one continuum what about the idea of organized religion oppressing people through this fear technique how do you view that now JOE Well there are certain things about organized religion that are very appealing to a lot of people And I don t have any great problem with many of the organized religions or you know wherever two or three or more people gather together to worship I don t have a problem with that concept Where I have a problem is when that particular organization starts alluding to a god that s an angry god or a god that would murder JEFF A vengeful god JOE Yes right that would decree that you d have to go out and murder your own family or something to appease them that s a little bit on the ridiculous side JEFF Or others to protect the religion from encroachment or rival religions JOE Exactly and so forth and so on JOE One of the things I ve learned because I ve pretty much internalized my spirituality and have pursued this philosophically and one of the conclusions that I ve come to um let s see the best way to present this would be I ve never clearly understood in my own lifetime how anyone could voluntarily walk to their own death And certainly the holocaust brings us an example of that I could never understand why someone would allow someone that was evil incarnate a Hitler for instance to put them to death without at least fighting back I ve since I ve come to the conclusion that however evil incarnate is not best fought by participation It s fought by a participation or involvement a total involvement in the good or the positive And the only real response to evil incarnate is to ignore it in the display of a positive or righteous attitude So since death physical death is not an end unto itself the most appropriate response is to essentially turn the other cheek or to walk to death with a smile on your face and I never understood that before but I think I finally have come to grasp with that and have a tremendous respect for the numbers of people that chose to honor the positive and the constructive and in doing so give their lives JEFF The antithesis of that I guess would be suicide JOE Right exactly Suicide in my opinion is probably the greatest waste of all because the person that commits suicide is essentially saying they have no value And I believe that everyone has value even in the act of death JEFF They re also saying that people around them essentially have no value either to them JOE That s correct It s just the ultimate decision of ignorance perhaps Or the ultimate decision of fear JEFF Why Joe after all of this experience and profound nature of what you ve been through why are we here JOE You know during my near death experience the only thing that seemed to me was something that I was actually taking with me was the essence of my experience So the only conclusion that I ve been able to come to is perhaps one of the reasons we re here is for experience You know how could every day an ordinary experiential life be of any value Well it s of value if we re unsure of what we are in the totality of self if we don t really know what kind of creatures we are the only way that we can discover the limits of those creatures ot the limits of ourself is to experience as much as we can JEFF Well that s very well said well taken Let s take a break here Joe and we ll be right back forgive the interruption We shall continue here at Sightings on the Radio in about three minutes We ll be right back break Real Audio Counter 01 14 14 JEFF And welcome back we are talking with Joe McMoneagle one of the six original CIA remote viewers and the only remote viewer who stayed in the military s ultra secret program through its entire existence October 1978 through November 1995 Joe s book MIND TREK Hampton Roads Publishing a must read for anybody who cares about the mind and what it is capable of it s extraordinary available now it s priced at 12 95 And Joe also has his own private corporation he does consulting work and we will talk about that a little bit later JEFF Let s go back to the actual procedures and hardware so to speak of this technology You have in the book Joe reprinted a number of photographs which were targets which you were assigned to try to find information on and then we have reprinted just below them the drawings you made of these targets And it is really something to go through and read and understand this it s remarkable I think you said that in 20 of your drawings you re able to do literally a virtually perfect overlay lineup of the actual target photograph or object that you re after It s amazing Are there other people many other people who have come close to this percentage in your knowledge JOE In terms of the remote viewing project yes there were quite a few individuals within the project that were as good and in some cases probably better than myself So it s one of those things that there are world class people in this business and then there are those that probably aren t world class But it s something everyone can do to a certain extent The near overlay type of drawing is extremely rare except only occurs maybe 20 of the time But that s a statistic that s fairly accurate for remote viewers that do it professionally JEFF I see You have done live television programs and done remote viewing you just did one recently again how many have you done and tell me about some of the results JOE Actually under controls on camera live I ve done of course the ABC special which was Put to the Test which was a very good example of remote viewing JEFF Yes I also did a remote viewing at the J B Rhine Center in Durham I believe it was last June that was filmed by Reader s Digest home video the entire protocol at that time was controlled by a man by the name of Dr Richard Wiseman from England who is a noted skeptic in the field I might add That was also very successful I ve done four remote viewings for The Paranormal World of Paul McKenna which is a show that s broadcast in London And I just recently did a live remote viewing for a Discovery Channel production that s being done for British television JEFF Fun to do JOE No they re really kind of a pain in the neck One of the things that is really interesting about this particular arena is quite literally there have been probably 12 000 remote viewings done under control either under lab control or within the operations and you could stack all these in a room they would essentially fill probably 250 boxes literally and yet with all of that proof the typical scientist or the typical individual just average individual would say I m sorry I can t believe this you have to show me And I find that remarkable The only area that you know it has to be personally demonstrated to everyone when they re first exposed to it I think it s probably because it s asking them to change their concepts of reality JEFF Well it s like the ultimate challenge to them JOE Exactly JEFF Very threatening and people are gonna just shut the door on it JOE You know I did one remote viewing live with CNN and it was kinda funny in that when they asked me to do it I said no I m tired of this I m not gonna do it why don t you have your reporter do it And we set up a controlled remote viewing and the reporter did very well But it was very difficult doing the last hour filming because she wouldn t calm down unclear laughter blown away by the experience JEFF That s very funny That brings us to the next issue of teaching remote viewing to people It has become a cottage industry Courtney Brown Major Ed Dames um Lyn Buchanan who you hold in very high regard others what about the idea of teaching remote viewing it s becoming popular now is it something that can be taught to the average person We talked about this a bit earlier The prices for these courses are rather exhorbitant at times Give me a survey of this whole field if you would JOE In terms of teaching I think that you could certainly teach the protocol and you can essentially teach the basics of a methodology Now one of the problems with the teaching is that many of the methods that are being taught are claiming near 100 accuracy they re claiming full contact with the target nearly 100 of the time And those that just is not statistically supportable and so I think people are being misled about a lot of these methodologies or the degree of accuracy they can achieve There s certainly nothing wrong with helping someone develop a psychic method within a control But I think in most cases the prices and the amount of time they say that they can be taught in is ridiculous Most cases they say they can teach someone to remote view with that kind of accuracy within a few weeks and that s just not possible JEFF I remember early on with this Hale Bopp comet controversy Courtney Brown allegedly his A Team his remote viewers in the Farsight Institute all independently reportedly looked at this comet and found intelligent life out there with it and so on and so forth What was your reaction to all of that JOE My reaction was that I didn t believe it Primarily the reason I didn t believe it is he talks about his protocols in his book and my review of his protocols or the way he defines them clearly shows that these are methodologies and they re primarily training methodologies So I don t think that the protocol is being followed It s difficult to actually say that he s not following the protocol because he quite simply does not open any of his operations or his training or anything to peer review or to discussion One of the sure fire tests of a protocol what actually makes a protocol real is the fact that it is open to peer review it is open to discussion and it is open to challenge JEFF We had Courtney Brown essentially bringing forth information from his team that the world was facing a real showdown with an extraterrestrial intelligence which was accompanying the Hale Bopp comet Major Ed Dames has laid out in no uncertain terms his allegedly remote viewed prognostication or assertion or discovery that another object with the comet was coming here with apparently carrying plant pathogens these are end of the world millenial madness pronouncements Again I don t see how it does the the field the professional field the scientific field of remote viewing any good Would you care to comment on that JOE I think that anything that sort of drives people to panic is unconscienable I also have a firm belief that any kind of predictive viewing such as that where you re talking about a future event is participant in the creation of that event In other words if you talk a great deal about a coming war then that has a tendency to catch on as a bush fire and pretty soon you re fighting that war It would be a far more valuable consequence to be predicting things in a positive format producing an idea or concept that people can fasten themselves to that would become a positive or creative event JEFF Yeah Let s pause Joe and we ll be right back with Sightings on the Radio break Real Audio Counter 01 26 13 JEFF We re back Joe anybody thinking about getting into remote viewing studying it and so forth would do well to listen to what kind of advice from Joe McMoneagle JOE Well I think that anyone that wants to get into it I think it s a very interesting thing to pursue but it should not be pursued as an end unto itself Like I said it s like a martial art Involve yourself with the intention of finding out as much about it as you can have an open mind but do not lose sight of your normal skepticism it should be pursued in as clear a way as possible And it s okay to go out and pursue some of these training methodologies I suppose as long as you re careful not to be deluded by them walk away so to speak with the things of value that you find there and leave the things that are not of value JEFF Why don t people people come to you for training why isn t Joe McMoneagle offering remote viewing as a training course Seems there s potentially a lot of money there JOE Well yeah you know I could hang a shingle out tomorrow and probably make a hundred thousand dollars a year but that s not the point What I ve tried to do in my book MIND TREK is I ve tried to provide as much information as possible so that if someone wants to pursue this in their own talented way they can The other point I d like to make is that I don t teach because I believe that since it is a number of years occupation to give an individual then it would be extremely prohibitive from a cost standpoint or from an investment or energy standpoint Someone really has to want to do this I also do not want responsibility for playing with someone s mind I think everybody should grow and evolve under their own control and under their own speed And many of the training scenarios assume that responsibility which I think is very dangerous JEFF Can remote viewing training hurt somebody JOE pause There certainly have been some examples in the past of people who ve been exposed to remote viewing that went off the deep end In fact in the science side the research side what we found to be true is the person who just unequivocably accepts everything about remote viewing without any skepticism you know what we call the true believer JEFF The quick believer JOE Yeah the person who just falls head over heels in love with remote viewing and everything about it is usually far more dangerous in terms of their destructiveness to the field or the science of it than someone that holds a healthy skepticism JEFF This has almost the earmark of a potential cult allegiance that people might have to it JOE Well one of the ways of telling whether or not it is is whether or not the trainer is willing to give over the last piece or you know in effect cut the training cord Many of the people walk away from a lot of the training feeling that they really didn t get the full measure they didn t get that last 10 or they find that they re extremely dependent upon their instructor If someone has the sense that they re still very dependent upon their instructor and haven t learned enough to sort of walk on their own two feet then they should be very suspect of the training or the connection with that JEFF Hmmmn You worked with Dr Ed May at Stanford and you still do work with Ed May JOE Right I ve had both you gentlemen on the program before several times I did ask the question then I m going to ask it again now Remote viewing of course gathers data from outside and pulls it inward Can remote viewing in any way place data in other people s minds Can that be done Can we influence the thoughts of others could this technique somehow be used in reverse Can we do that Joe JOE Actually I ve seen dozens of experiments that were done by the Russians the Hungarians the Czechoslovakians many of the experiments were done in labs here in the United States where there was an attempt to directly influence the mind of another human being Without using mechanical devices I would say no I have not seen that displayed Either the person is going to voluntarily do what they do or no amount of outside influence is going to override their own desire their own morality so to speak JEFF Do you see that possibly changing in time You mention devices Could this be married to some sort of technology that would be electronic in nature JOE Well there s certainly a number of people in labs in the world that have been playing with everything from pulse microwave to wave front technology where they can demonstrate that they can make people nervous or they can create nausea in a group of people at distance or interfere with perhaps the speed of their cognition That s in its infancy from a research standpoint But that s the same as gassing someone in a room I mean you re going to see an effect when you use a piece of equipment an externalized method In terms of causing someone to do something however or make a decision I ve never seen that demonstrated anywhere JEFF Can you you mentioned after your near death after death experience that you were able to know other people s thoughts before they actually spoke them First of all was that irritating to you at all Or embarrassing Or did it place a huge burden on your senses JOE Well it was it was embarrassing because some of the thoughts weren t you know wholesome and some of the thoughts were certainly surprising to me because they belied the personality of the person that I was dealing with But over time what I just learned to do was accept the fact that all human beings are very unique and that what s in a person s mind is their own business and I have no right to it JEFF You stay out of it now JOE Yeah I stay out of spontaneous reactions to people I might shake somebody s hand when I meet them or walk into a crowded room and brush up against somebody or something but generally speaking I just discard the information JEFF Can you summon it on demand Joe JOE Well like I said a really good competent remote viewer can target objects places events even concepts conceptualizations there are many examples of targeting concepts or plans for operations that were very accurate when they were in the planning stage JEFF Well what you re saying is that you were able to remotely read people s minds JOE Right or conceptualize what was the concept or the idea behind what they were attempting to do JEFF You are able to as you have described to me before really talk about about one percent of what you ve experienced in your military career as a remote viewer and I understand that Are people talking about remote viewing and disclosing things that they shouldn t be Joe JOE That potential is certainly there One of the things one of the misconceptions about the exposure of STAR GATE was that the total program was exposed by the A I R report which was delivered to congress in the unclassified format In fact probably 98 of the program is still very classified and is sealed away In fact the evaluators who did the evaluation of the program for the A I R The American Institutes for Research were not allowed access to the information JEFF No kidding JOE Yeah it really brings some interesting light to their evaluation Dr Ray Hyman in fact states in an article that was written in the skeptic bulletin in Washington that he was given access to the entire process and all its files In fact he was given probably three boxes of information while there was still 110 boxes or more that were sealed away JEFF Hmmn What was really revealed was the fact that the program existed not so much what it accomplished and what it did and how it worked correct JOE That s correct And many of the issues in terms of targeting a lot of the methodologies that certainly has never been discussed JEFF Alright we re gonna pause and come back with Joe McMoneagle whose book MIND TREK is must reading Hampton Roads Publishing it s available at all major bookstores in the bookstores or you can order it I m Jeff Rense this is Sightings on the Radio break Real Audio Counter 01 39 15 JEFF Joe I want to pursue this idea again that I just brought up a few minutes ago about getting into other people s heads If you can get in there to read their thoughts pick up concepts how do we know that it s not possible to implant or influence thoughts and concepts How can we say that can t happen JOE Well actually we can t say that that can t happen What I said before is that I just had never seen it demonstrated JEFF I heard that I understand I heard that that s why I m bringing it up again JOE One of the things that has become very apparent to me and this is from twelve plus years on the research side and certainly my nearly two decades of involvement in remote viewing is that it s very clear to me that much of what happens to us in our lives has very much to do with the decisions we make on a day to day basis We can either make those decisions in an aware state or we can make them while we re essentially asleep consciously Most people unfortunately probably don t spend a great deal of time in the aware state So you could conceivably manipulate what someone does because of the fact that they re asleep they re not paying attention to what they re doing JEFF Well and people are certain manipulated virtually every waking moment by the mass media I mean that s a given and it s right in your face JOE Sure and they use all sorts of technologies and techniques to do that and my point is if there are powerful individuals powerful in the sense that they ve been able to harness this ability and under strict protocols use it why not Why not JOE Well in my own experience wherever I ve seen you know cross human effect generally speak well specifically speaking in almost every case where a protocol was set up both participants knew they were participating in exactly that kind of experiment So there was a clear awareness that that s what the intention was and that s what was going on So that implies a cooperativeness between the two individuals In the case where the person was totally naive there was no clearly demonstrated effect that I ve ever seen under controls So it may be that in order for the effect to occur one has to be cognizant of or aware of the fact that that s the kind of thing that s happening JEFF Interesting we talk about auditory visual olfactory senses which can trigger responses in people it would seem to me that the other possibility does exist JOE Yeah and it probably does it s just that I ve not seen it displayed You know it s one of those things fill in the question mark JEFF Yeah Okay The program was officially disbanded there is allegedly no more funding for it I remember seeing I think it was Gates talk about how it had a rather low percentage an unacceptedly low percentage of success it was interesting but it really didn t prove to be a valuable weapon I must tell you as a friend and an an professional colleague so to speak in this media game that we are all in it doesn t make sense That such a valuable program with such people as yourself in it which can hit targets 55 60 of the time and relatively few individuals who are paid military salary essentially that that program would be disbanded dropped in any way Is it not possible Joe that this money simply went elsewhere JOE That s always remotely possible I seriously doubt it My I have to give you my viewpoint which is having been in the program during the entire time of its existence one thing was very apparent to me Regardless of how it might have appeared there was never any really openness to the program In other words most of the reason it was probably kept very low key or secretive many times was just to keep people from knowing what the source of the data was There s a great deal of negativity towards the paranormal that certainly exists within the bureaucracy and it was always from Day 1 the last place you ever wanted to be seen alive was standing next to an Army psychic And there s no reason to think that that s changed JEFF Or a professional UFO researcher JOE laughs Right Exactly That doesn t mean that you know that it s not real and it doesn t mean that it s not effective It just means that most people who have to take a paycheck home are not going to expose their careers particularly their political careers to that sort of JEFF Well I understand that but we really are faced with the potential that there are hundreds of billions of dollars available over a very few over a short period of time of just a few years to be spent on so called black budget programs secret programs and I just gotta think that a few million dollars here and there could certainly keep this program more than alive at levels that maybe even Joe McMoneagle isn t aware of JOE Oh yeah That s always possible From a remote viewing standpoint though I would say that that s probably not going on not happening JEFF Interesting Well do you think that there may be some more advanced technology JOE In comparing the degree or level of remote viewing that was achieved at SRI and the Cognitive Sciences Lab at SAIC as well as within the operational Army unit through that period I would say that we were probably state of the art That doesn t mean that there isn t someone in the world somewhere that isn t doing as well or better JEFF I ve been told by people this again is not substantiated that there are electronics now that can actually read people s minds and I don t know that we ll ever have in the near future any definitive proof on that but I d like to get your comment on that as we continue here with Sightings on the Radio with my guest Joseph McMoneagle author of the remarkable book MIND TREK published by Hampton Roads and we shall return break Real Audio Counter 01 49 13 JEFF And welcome back everybody I m Jeff Rense and this is Sightings on the Radio and we re talking to Joe McMoneagle tonight about remote viewing and many other things related to that in one way or another Joe have you ever come across information which would lead you to believe and I know you re under National Security constraints and I can t expect for a moment you would certainly step across that line but do you know of any equipment that would allow people either in a lab or from a remote distance to tune in on someone s mind and read it out to any reasonable degree whatsoever JOE In my own experience no I know a number of people who have been researching an ability to you know to try to influence or affect the minds of people remotely through the use of say pulse microwave or JEFF I m talking more about reading thoughts Joe JOE In terms of reading no I don t even see how that could be possible One of the ongoing arguments that has been going on for hundreds of years literally is the possibility of where mind resides And we re not absolutely sure that the mind resides just in the brain to start with There s certainly evidence now that memory doesn t reside totally

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  • Remote Viewing : The Firedocs Collection : Joe McMoneagle interviewed on the Tom Snyder show, transcript
    to be exposed to the remote viewing protocols and then to actually do some remote viewing Tom And then was there not a branch of the Army that was set up and there were a number of you who were able to do remote viewing or remote imaging and you were assigned various tasks You were given certain things to do in terms of finding stuff out Joe Right exactly Tom Ok Now so and one of those like tracking nuclear weapons I think you say in this book Mind Trek it is very important that we should know where nuclear weapons are that they re moving into the hands of different political powers day by day and we should have that information Joe One of the amazing things about remote viewing is the specific targets that they re probably most accurate with are high energy type targets or targets that have high energy chain state And uh nuclear material has that kind of energy And historically we ve always done very very well with nuclear targets So in this age of the attempts for venting the proliferation of nuclear weapons or the spread of nuclear material remote viewing could provide a substantial help for that Tom You say we ve had remarkable success could you give us an example of something that s come from remote imaging that s turned out to be truley useful information that has helped us in terms of our national security Joe Oh sure in one case we were targeting a building that was a very large building in the northern part of the USSR And no one knew what was going on inside the building And targeting that building I drew out a drawing of a submarine I described its uh canad tubes how many tubes it had a large flat area on the rear deck described it as a large submarine and it was a new Typhoon Class Submarine We were able to predict when it was actually going to be rolled out of the building and in that way they were able to target other collection systems Tom And all this you did doing remote viewing Joe Yes from Virginia Tom And you would go to your office in the morning I assume like most people 8 8 30 in the morning work an eight hour day and you would have a desk and they would bring you things and say here work on this Joe Right Generally speaking it was an eight hour day sometimes it was more than that Tom Sigh Unbelievable Um you don t have trouble getting to sleep at night do you Joe Sometimes Tom Do you really Joe laughter Yes Tom Sometimes it s hard to turn the pictures off is it Joe Uh no it s the spontenaity of it sometimes happens but generally speaking it s something that takes a lot of focus and it takes a lot of practice Tom Ok Were

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