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  • Bewilderness by PJ Gaenir Chapter 20
    realms other than what we know as 3D physical the entities are malleable and for whatever reason have taken that form and d It is not impossible that the form they take is based on what we want or expect However given A and B I would be forced to assume that when one encounters Joe Doon in a given form one can logically make an assumption about the behavior personality of that form and of the conditions of the environment that form is found in Regardless of why he s in that form or how he got there if a certain form indicates a certain behavior it doesn t make any difference whether they change forms or not If they re as predictable or more so than we are when recognized in a certain form then the form can be taken at face value In other words a grey is a grey Who cares what he was 10 minutes before if he s a grey when you see him you can bet he ll act like one I can support the idea that some of them in certain conditions have the ability to change form or to make one believe they have same result but I cannot support the idea that everything we see is merely one creative group of entities shape changing Nope Not in the physical as well as the astral I just don t buy that My experience just flat out doesn t tell me that I did consider it and ponder it at length early on but I was brought back to believing my initial conclusion which is that they really are separate although that word loses some definition as you travel inward they are not as good at distinguishing between thoughts and reality as we are I don t think there s a big difference I d be inclined to say that we re just not as good at interpreting how merged they are The separation of thought vs reality is in my opinion our blindness condition Besides reality changes what you consider reality means little when viewing things from their perspective Apart from the psychological harm they may inflict on individuals especially on people who have not had previous psychic experiences aliens do not seem to be dangerous Thus far I d have to agree Except I d take exception with the psychic part they may usually be on psychic realms but not always Showing up in one s living room makes them seem a bit more dangerous than floating about in the ether trust me They may not invade Papua New Guinea or the USA they are in no position to promote NWO they won t make deals with the military I have nothing to indicate to me those things are impossible I m not paranoid but I wouldn t put it past them if they had the inclination In my opinion they are beings of a nearby plane who can briefly visit ours as we can briefly visit theirs These visits require the assumption of some denser substance on their part we on the contrary can only visit them if we assume a lighter substance like the astral bodies detached in OBEs All this seems inoffensive enough because neither they nor we can stay long in each other s place Well first off by that theory hybrids might have long term abilities in both But some of these folks are human or close enough to it and could indeed live here And technology may enable the visits either direction to be long term I think there may be more to it though I feel the difference between being in one plane or another is less about mere substance and more about perception which may determine substance but is the first requirement But perception can be trained to be open to a density level or as I say a frequency band other than the one that a person is physically standing in Otherwise we wouldn t see ghosts unless people became ghosts or unless ghosts became physical While both may be possible I m tempted to say that a person s perception altered enough to allow them to see something not in this plane or not fully anyway that s why only some people see them Were the ghost physical everyone would see them were the person ghostly the people they were with wouldn t see them I know entities ghosts are relegated to the far out category by most people but that s just superstition and nonsense They re familiar enough to a large enough group of people throughout history that it shouldn t be such a big question anymore Anyway one of the problems is that getting this perception tuned to the frequency aligned with where they re vibrating invariably makes us vibrate there another way of getting what we focus on which means it s pretty difficult to have a conversation with an astral entity while you re driving down the road Not impossible mind you but when it s done that way when our attention is fully in the physical for the most part it s a different level of contact The direct contact changes me The first response is usually feeling like throwing up It has serious effects on the body not to mention the mind I m not sure if this is the vibration that accompanies it or the entities themselves I don t know if the vibration is them or technology But as for learning to focus into them it is possible I really believe that one could be trained to deal with it I sometimes think that s what they re doing with us Are there other dimensions in which they can be a nuisance or dangerous I think they can be here The potential effects of anything from their encounters to hybrids though should there be such a thing is worth keeping in mind as is their apparent ability to shall we say provide us ideas and thoughts we may think are our own I don t fear them or even suspect them of negatives but I would hesitate out of common sense to simply assume they were harmless And even if they were if I kill myself because thanks to them I thought I was crazy that s still indirect harm yes And we can t forget our history either some groups of entities and I remain uncertain which ones appear to exist and have demonstrated a merciless lack of goodwill Every time I get going on the Higher Evolution aspect of this subject I try to keep that little detail in mind o0o I think you have a good point about this new field of abduction actually opening up a tremendous creative spout in humanity overall and allowing us to see and experience a number of things through it We ve definitely been repressed in many areas and regardless of the paradigm that the creativity is flowing through at least it has an outlet Of course there have always been people with the capacity to see but they had to negate their visions or classify them into the dual categories of angel or demons And up to the eighteenth century it was very dangerous I m not 100 certain that it s not today I mean nobody I know has ever died except once in a dream or even been grievously injured When I saw that movie Fire in the Sky I was upset for a month just by the idea of a corpse because thus far while there d been some weird stuff scary stuff and even painful stuff there has never been physical death There have however been mushy bodies my own a form of transport in that soft thin blue gel like not fully physical Like how water is mass but you can put your hand through it but thicker Perhaps that was misinterpreted in the movie who knows There have been many times I ve felt I barely escaped with my life and or sanity however I don t know how much of that is merely my fear or perception but I don t want to test it out to be sure I m wary I get the impression from some of your writing that you ve categorized these folks neatly into the astral realm While I myself have said that more than once and so obviously agree at least in some cases still I think it s important that people do not get misled by this classification They have the ability to become 100 physical and they do They appear to be autonomous don t let that get forgotten I have a very positive outlook toward all this but I feel it would be unfair of me to carry my emotional interpretation into any kind of logical assumption I have experienced that they are astral and they are physical they are benevolent and they are ruthless they are autonomous and they are influenced by us I m optimistic enough to work with them openly to allow myself to be influenced by them for the sake of learning But I m pessimistic enough that I wouldn t give over my kids to them and I don t trust them because I don t fully understand them I feel we may merely be pawns That I may learn from this experience makes it ok for me That doesn t mean I want to give over my own people to that status While our conceptual framework may be very different we d be fools to ignore our own experience with things What happens to property land personal rights and even life when one sentient species here considers another inferior Well they consider us inferior so think about it Only the blondes are arrogant about it The bugs and lizards do too but they respond differently They re not insecure they don t need to be jerks This alone this attitude makes me nervous and distrustful The sweet fragile ones don t act like that They seem much more equal to humans even if more wonderfully empathic than we are I trust the intentions of the fragile ones I ve never had the feeling they wanted to hurt me and in fact they seem distressed if the subject comes up The tall bug things seem so intelligent they re actually a little bit above that sort of thing They d do what was necessary but they wouldn t hurt anybody for fun The blondes might just out of that infamous human arrogance and disregard for other life that we see in our own species They re human if of a somewhat different makeup so that may be why we have much in common I don t know where the line is that divides these things or explains these things But the data I have right now from all angles tells me that I should avoid making decisions until I have more data I m the first to dislike the polarity of the good evil scenario and am pretty Thelemic about that all in all But that does not rule out the option of many different species all with their own intents and purposes some of which may not be liked by us I think we re still in the midst of the good evil war we ve been using since Day 1 what with Greys supposedly being drones doing nasty genetic stuff yet then people are talking about spiritual awakening and bonding with them and on one hand the aliens are so superior on another just the bad guys on one just normal folks from another dimension just different and on another the Fallen Angels from this one Each individual has the right to make up their own mind of course and emotionally I have only positive associations with my learning but I m also easiest to influence on the emotional level from their end I ve seen it happen enough with me to not fully trust that aspect of me or at least to not ignore my intellectual component which isn t as influenceable and which basically says that I don t have enough data to reach any conclusion about their intent As for the general opening of personal abilities and experience and creativity though you re right they re all linked with me and I think our culture with its dead gods is in need of an outlet This one will work just as well as any other I suppose What is the strongest case that can be made for the hallucination hypothesis Individual beliefs perceptions expectations and fears strongly influence many abduction and or other experiences As the most extreme example I was once convinced I met a certain group of entities immediately after having heard about them I think the effect of one s psychology can t be overlooked if we ever want to figure this out I may be schizo ok or maybe the mind is involved but more along the lines of tuning us to a specific frequency Few people seem to be either brave enough or logical enough to put all evidence they have forth because everybody s afraid of being invalidated or crazy I however decided early into all this that I am crazy and am ok with it as long as it doesn t screw up my ability to make a living I ve seen people s encounter stories change rapidly like within minutes based on their own expectations and or those of their abduction group I don t think they re lying I think like an abstract dream any personal bias at all warps recall I think it s extremely difficult for objective psychological researchers to get much of a true story out of things at least in the interpretive aspect of it So I ve gone out of my way to provide myself a framework where I have no need to prove anything to experience one thing over another It s all equally interesting On the other hand I ve met entities and seen environment detail that years later I then heard about the same critters and the details elsewhere tremendously validating to me as I hadn t heard about them before I experienced it And having been in deliberate denial of this subject my whole life I ve missed stories everybody knows and so regularly come up with things that I think are novel that are boring to everybody else But I didn t know about it before it happened to me Any halfway rational contactee I hate all the terms for this stuff admits that their own psychology plays a part in all this Problem is it s so common for people not going through it to write the experiences off as merely dreams or imagination that there s a near paranoia about that opinion with folks going through it So the sensitivity to people indicating it s being created by one s own psychology is overwrought Understandably And of course there s that little matter that most people are somewhat oblivious to their real psychology and so even if it were entirely self created they might not recognize they had anything to do with it Getting people to take responsibility for themselves even on the physical realm is difficult and there the cause effect is so much more obvious What evidence argues against such a hypothesis a Similar encounters all over the world throughout time even down to tiny details with people who have not been influenced by each other b An occasional lack of anything interesting in the experiences and or aliens Just folks in some cases not like it s a big experience where they took my Eggs or something but like you just happened to be hanging around a place that just happens to be different from this one More like a place an alternate reality of sorts then a you specific focus This combined with the constant repetition eventually leads me to conclude that it hardly matters if they re as regular as my boss is they re part of my reality Even teaching although it s often one on one in my case it s often like a projector screen with a narrator though it varies often has a classroom tone where it s not again that I m the center of attention or even that I m noticed I just happen to be there c A personality profile of certain aliens that doesn t seem to match what we would expect from planetary or even cultural archetypes For example the angelic blonde guys are usually a pain in the ass They re a bit more developed it seems but in other ways not they re easily violent and tend to pound you if you get out of line At least that s my experience with them and I didn t expect that While this could be stretched and said to relate to something like the Aryanism of the Nazi party generally I think most people at least in the mostly white countries have a positive emotional association with something beautiful and blue eyed The fact that note a applies here is worth considering as well d Physical results Implants in particular I was even seriously injured by a misplaced implant in my knee then it was pretty difficult to pretend it wasn t real and all my What a groovy metaphysical experience reassurance went out the window Moreover since they eventually came back and fixed me and were fully physical and yet completely invisible my body is absolutely convinced they re real My eyes couldn t see them but there are a lot of perceptions besides visual that are just as relevant to reality I don t necessarily see wind or temperature either but that doesn t make them my imagination e Results seem to override beliefs For example since I was convinced for a long time they were entities and I had no UFO type stigma attached to the experience I liked them I figured they were some kind of evolved master or whatever on some other plane and were coming to educate me Gosh how considerate Belief in Evolved Masters was a new belief too but was easier for me than aliens And yet a few times when I forced myself to stay awake long enough I would just fall into a stupor I had to train myself to fight it that them coming could be heard by my body and not just sensed in my mind my entire body reacted with stark terror with life or death survival instincts with immobilizing fear And yet even during this my conscious mind was thinking What s wrong This is a good thing Why should I be scared I knew that my body or my subconscious was scared not the rest of me My emotions and mind weren t scared my body was although that doesn t seem to make sense objectively I did not have this the first few times I met them which led me to believe that there is something in those experiences that developed the emotion As time went on specifically after I was thoroughly implanted any need to show up physically pretty much went away Now they just drag me out of my body astrally usually or I bi locate I m still confused to be honest All electromagnetic spectrum phenomena energy has a wave like character which is discernable given the right kind of experiment is carried out They do not interact with matter such as your body to any appreciable extent Well you are quoting science as it is known and previously published So you re correct by definition But I feel that we re talking about something not fully understood yet and anyway I feel that science saying this doesn t really affect your body is laughable since in my own opinion science is completely oblivious to anything but the overtly biological and in my experience there is much more Besides even in the overtly biological category science can t figure out what does or does not cause cancer et al and the studies demonstrating that things do or do not conveniently tend to match the interests of the research funding party I don t think science even has this reality down very well yet so I m not inclined to trust the field s opinion over my own personal experience when it comes to things they have not studied and don t even have the tools for doing so all of these aspects indicate that individuals experienced a significant change in consciousness That s one way of putting it I suspect many of the difficulties and confusions and amnesias are more a matter of attempting to translate something non translatable than anything else Some of the amnesias though seem to be deliberately induced by the folks one encounters which is another topic The observation that the incidence of reported abuse among a sample of abductees is twice the suggested incidence in the normal population also suggests susceptibility to disassociation Similarities with lucid dreaming the near death experience and temporal lobe epileptic aura experiences are also apparent Sounds right to me Perhaps abuse in childhood simply provokes certain developments including a need to be able to communicate on levels other than purely physical if for nothing else than self defense Sort of a necessary measure of human adaptability if you will If I can sense a mood in somebody or something about to happen I m that much more safe I believe extensive lucid dreaming and other such things are also more common perhaps for the same reasons By this perspective it would actually be logical to assume that people with abuse in their history would be more inclined to these experiences That doesn t make the experiences less valid it merely makes some people more inclined to encounter them by their very nature It s also possible that instead of psychology explaining the alien abduction symptom perhaps the symptom explains the psychology In other words encountering aliens as a child may have made certain aspects of my consciousness more easily accessed The fact is that we are grounded in a certain reality and view of it Sanity is a relative term based on society 1000 Years ago a disbelief in God and Witches would have been insanely dissasociative today a belief in them is questioned Used to be you could discuss ghosts with a straight face nowadays you re a loon I keep in mind Zenon paradoxes I think someone once called them where the experts in math can prove that it s impossible to catch a ball for an arrow to reach its target and other such things Those ought to be a clue that our expert opinions and valid mathematical theories often mean little to the operational parameters of reality Sanity is based on perception If I perceive that the sky is blue and the room is empty and you think it s green and there are flowers falling from the ceiling I think you re insane But if everyone agrees with you it s me who s nuts Some doctor would test to find the part of my brain that blocks out flowers I suppose However given the levels of consciousness that for instance hallucinogenic drugs can example I don t consider that an invalid experience and many chemicals can be found in our own brain so it s not really artificial I see no reason to conclude that there is only one possible perception available that deserves the real label Letters II I had a brief foray into a computer forum related to UFO s in August of 94 and then a great deal of correspondence in November of that year I told some of my stories talked about my feelings and my impressions For the most part at least initially the people I met were welcoming and non judgmental about it It s obvious that all these things come off as crazy I don t really need reminding and most of the folks didn t feel obliged to do so Some of them had been studying this subject for years and were remarkably well read rational and excellent to talk with I thought I d copy you some of the letters Most of these are from late 94 to 95 They discuss various aspects of communication about the subject and the subject itself I thought some of the questions were very good ones o0o One of the most fascinating aspects of abduction next to the psychology of those getting abducted is the psychology of those seriously studying the subject As I hung around the forum eventually I was exposed to the turnover of people who came into the forum it s kind of like a social club and went through their own development on the subject The one notable feature of any person who was willing to study the subject by this I mean read every book available from every perspective that they could lay their hands on talk at length with people on both sides of the debate et al and really use their brain to crash belief systems is that they became believers I think this says something about the subject itself that even brilliant educated scientific skeptical types were finally forced to conclude that something was going on and while the details may not be clear and the meaning muddier still the outline is quite apparent It was fascinating to watch There was a profile of behavior that accompanied these people as they studied more and more of the subject They would go through these cycles of anger and sarcasm and then they d get more rational and objective again and then they d get interested and more open minded in their interest and following on the heels of the open minded stage would come another bout of frustrated anger and sarcasm and so on When the reality of all this finally broke through to people when their belief systems made the final move to change they hit the wall as I call it psychologically with an intense fear that every person going through contact recognizes well It s that Oh my god it s REAL terror that finally sinks in The other option is that they would just drop out of the subject altogether as if none of it their interest or study ever happened Some go straight into denial and the others go straight into fear The fear passes if the person is strong enough psychologically to be able to deal with it The result in a group however is that at any given time there are at least a dozen people in varying degrees of that anger phase who have nothing better to do with their time and energy than hassle people talking about contact It s this almost evangelistic trait disguised as skepticism which some obtuse folks think is the equivalent of objective it s obviously not When it comes to this UFO business it plays on so much religion and science and is so challenging to many people s whole picture of reality that they re irrationally attacking In the more extreme cases you d think their entire reason for living were to convince other people they are wrong stupid evil lying crazy or whatever the case may be In many cases they obviously have contact with this field as well that they re not consciously aware of I ve seen it enough to begin to recognize it Like some wanna be Atheist they say they don t believe in the subject but they spend all their time talking about it It got frustrating for me Letter to D M You know I am so damn tired of having to prove anything over and over again I could throw up Can t even have a conversation without 500 caveats addressing every issue from theology to metaphysics to science just to insure the people I m talking to don t think I m a moron It s annoying this having to be so concerned that what seems valid to me will be invalidated by others because one time somebody else saw Venus and was clueless I have personal experiences at a considerably closer range I m not in doubt I respect the search for truth But I think that gets a bit skewed when you drag consciousness into things since truth as we know it tends to rely on logic which tends to be linear which much of this experience is assuredly not I suppose the only way to support recognition of literal experience is to be willing to point out fakes when they roll around But who s to say How can I know And it annoys me that the flaps of momentary popularity no matter how ridiculous they are are taken as a measure of what all people going through this stuff are claiming Sometimes it s outright embarrassing Letter to S D2 It isn t being objective or even skeptical that I mind Thing is there is no point in arguing with tales of the experience You can ask about it about things that relate to it and bring up all the contradictions inconsistencies and alternatives you want That s great But there is no point to debating it or debunking it because it s not right or wrong It s not an objective noun a literal black white a yes no subject This isn t the same for everyone and even if it were there s still no standard of what IS real It isn t one of those things that a weather balloon can clear up in an afternoon The fact that anybody has been diagnosed with some long medical label because they saw a non human entity does not prove that my seeing a non human entity means I am merely delusional As for proof absence of evidence is not proof that something doesn t exist of course I m not an evangelist I don t want or need to convince anybody I just want to be able to discuss it with reasonable people and those who are curious without being attacked by those who obviously have some personal issues with this subject I learn about myself in the process of communicating But having to explain myself personally first like some kind of job resume of do I have enough college degrees to indicate I have a brain is like having to apologize for being a certain race before beginning every conversation it isn t logical and determining someone s internal qualifications based solely on whether they majored in science is ridiculous it s infuriating to me personally that many people have such assumptions about the inherent intelligence of anybody who claims contact When people post or talk to contactees as if they re slightly irrational children who really ought to be educated out of believing their invisible friend is real it does bring out some personal reaction in me mainly an urge to kick them in the shins for being not only ignorant but rude It is rare enough to get people who have brains to talk about the subject of abduction or communication at all But then they have to be thicker skinned than an armadillo to boot to keep from losing their temper over the attitudes people take toward them and their data for no reason whatsoever except their own issues It s a never ending saga of a terminally touchy subject It s intertwined with psychology sanity and personal credibility and many folks especially those who are intelligent and accomplished in many areas of life don t have the patience to bother trying to re prove themselves to people they don t know anyway Over and over And over Discussion is one thing Self Defense is another M shouldn t have to drag out her impressive string of business scientific artistic literary and computer credentials to demonstrate her intelligence and rational thinking Talking to her ought to make it obvious It s the subject that brings it into question for you and that s your assumption and limitation not hers If you wish this proof it s up to you to do the research it s not up to me to convince you I m happy to answer questions with an almost painful honesty even when it makes me look ridiculous or it s personal sexual or concerning insanity solely because I want to further the research in this field I am not however willing to talk with anybody who treats me like I m an idiot Were we to meet in any circumstance but around this subject my rational intelligence would be obvious I m not willing to beg anybody to treat me like an equal Either learn some diplomacy or consider studying a field that uses lab rats instead of people as subjects As for quoting old textbooks at me the lab rules of the current Science Gods have no bearing on personal consciousness The paradigm of what fits what works what is or isn t possible what is ridiculous or irrational this is based on a mode of thinking that is not at this point in our development applicable to the abduction field Besides science has already run over half the scientists in the world who will still argue repeatable provable quantum physics experiments as if they never happened The experiences alone are enough to try one s patience to understate it by light years and one s sanity to be more accurate I guess it just doesn t take much on top of that to strike a nerve Letter to E J I m just wondering what kind of proof it will take to make the general public believe that abductions are real And should we really try Or maybe just let them come to their own conclusions There are a lot of people I know some scientists and some who ve merely studied physics who will rant rave and stomp about facts in a textbook making things impossible that in fact quantum physics has brought up and years ago and with much publication no less I m beginning to think even facts don t have a lot to do with getting a person unready for certain information to absorb it It seems to me the only thing that has ever really swayed mankind as a group has been falsified religious garbage Maybe that s why aliens come as secrets of the night instead of governmental or scientific ambassadors One of my favorite skeptics was a guy named J R who was so witty and obviously intelligent you couldn t help but like him When I began sharing my stories I addressed most of them directly to him just for the heck of it since he was the big skeptic at that time His profile of growth came to be recognizable in others as time went on and it helped me be much more relaxed around people that followed this profile later on as I recognized it for what it was I developed a little more patience with the emotional swings and pointed anger usually taken out on people claiming contact that even the most rational and logical researchers went through on the subject Letter to P P I remain as ever convinced that the psychological profile of people delving into this subject is as interesting as the subject itself The strength and bruising of people s response measures the strength of the emotional impact

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  • Bewilderness by PJ Gaenir Chapter 21 (end of Book I)
    Change the model I say If you re only presented with sound and the only tool you re willing to use is a camera well it s no surprise your proofs are slim Granted I m Jane Doe I m just the average guy on the street I m no rocket scientist I m not even a psychologist But I don t think one should need a doctorate to be able to discuss this issue I m a reasonable human being with enough empirical and personal evidence provided me to have made a reasonable decision about what seem to be the facts as I have experienced and encountered them I realize that at this time we as a species simply don t have the technology or point of view necessary We can t prove we re part of a spectrum yet of perception as well as frequency We haven t even finished figuring out our own world let alone any other But we re never going to invent anything along these lines if inventors and scientists can t break free of the paradigms that have trapped us here this long Our best minds are useless to us as they won t look into it are used against us since they insist it doesn t exist and we re simply insane to expect it probably does Absence of evidence doesn t prove there is no subject I have no test tube evidence for love but I don t argue about it Hasn t science been in the last century researching half of what is already known providing funding and recognition to those who study what is politically interesting all but excommunicating anybody who disagrees or contradicts popular findings or who studies something we don t already think we know and then finding out it was a wrong decision the individual had a valid point and there was more after all Technologists are not scientists That should be a title based on practice not based on education Take a look at how few scientists today are studying anomalies things we don t know or understand Those scientists who do study such things lament the lack of their fellows interested in the unknown It s too late to bring Galileo back Maybe if we quit knocking off via reputation funding employment or other means the only true scientists who are really studying what we don t know we would learn a little faster It s not merely that science hasn t caught up with our evolution It s that most of our scientists haven t caught up with science Research Who is the expert here Non experiencers are likely to be the best statistical technicians of the researchers people having the experience because there is a tremendous amount of psychological and emotional involvement where people having the experiences are concerned The psychological effects of these experiences themselves which can be anything from a night of horror to a beneficent religious experience to just another day combined with the effects of being extremely confused and secretly convinced one is a lunatic the inability to tell what belongs where and to which reality and if anything really happened are near brain scrambling problems added to physical results such as lousy sleeping habits and other such things combine to create huge blocks of denial frustration paranoia and sometimes outright irrational behavior in many people Aside from wearing tinfoil on their head while watching TV or swearing they re from Sirius or explaining that they re the Prince of Darkness or something it can manifest in less obvious ways to really screw up a study I ve known encounterees to insist an experience had to be 100 3D even though they knew otherwise and the indications were otherwise because to them a dream is invalid and they don t want to be invalidated so they are not going to admit that it was a dream they take literally If truly in denial about that they might even create a semi daydream component of craft and abduction when no such thing existed merely to fit what they believe had to have happened based on their own belief system or that they want to have happened Or they will insist it s a dream because 3D is actually more threatening to them this is my own biggest bias Or they will refuse to acknowledge the tremendous bleed through of current thoughts studies and influences upon the experiences as that often indicates it s at least partially self influenced and therefore may be imagination or invalid The difficulty with the alien subject including the larger UFOlogy field is that many people experiencing contact are introduced to it or promptly counseled about it through groups such as MUFON While I am fond of any support group for the subject the fact is meeting a large group of people who feed you the details of how it generally happens can only contribute to your a experiencing and interpreting it just that way and b wanting to experience it that way so that your experience will be considered valid In terms of combining data scientific inquiry and so forth these groups are an excellent opportunity But they completely obliterate most all ability of researchers to get any objective look at the contact experience by creating a tremendous bias and pre exposure even to details of the subject in members et al That these groups have the largest percentage of people who feel victimized is not coincidence It becomes a trauma support group and I m appalled at the damage that does to people and the slant it gives to the information overall I have even seen people repeatedly tell others that no their experience could not have happened in that way or mean that thing because this is how it is This whole field has become a religion with it own doctrine acceptable data etc In magick and metaphysics it tends to be more individual and less subject to harsh criticism from others and therefore less fear and sensitivity in the reporters These fields have their own pitfalls however Ceremonial Magick is often practiced as part of a group namely secret societies and the groups or the party line of those in authority have their own paradigms of belief most of which think in the context of entities rather than aliens Some magicians who do feel the two subjects magick and aliens are related are quiet about it either because they want to be comfortable in the group and taken seriously as an intellectual or because they feel it s an advanced understanding that is secret The new age or metaphysics field e g channeled work which dabbles in the alien subject may be more supportive but brings with it an entire predefined view just as the others do If you are taught that the guys with the lizardish skin and vertical pupils are the bad guys and the guys who are birdlike or white light are good guys then depending on your psychology chances are which group you re thinking about and even which group you meet and what happens during that meeting can be influenced That people end up carrying these assumptions into their experience and then back to the reporting documents only further skews the pool of data Without these assumptions those subjective conclusions about intent and interpretations while within the experience might not have been reached The experiences may still be valid But no researcher with clients affected by these biases is going to have a fair look at the scope or range of data Feedback from contactees about their experiences may be all a researcher has to go on sometimes I feel open validation of all data might create more relaxed subjects and less creativity The researchers and research groups are themselves biased about what to consider data As a result they get biased input and their conclusions are simply a biased output There s a connectivity that s being lost I think all things are a circuit they might work both ways We may learn as much or more about aliens consciousness and dimensions from biological angles chemicals drugs frequency modulation as we could from purely psychological meditational or magical angles I m a huge fan of scientific experimentation and wish I had the money time and education to do more of it in this area Official Science s disbelief in these experiences and the belief by most spiritually inclined folks that drugs or science is not the same as doing it oneself which may be true but may not limits people in both fields from experimentation from the other angle Lastly I feel that the physical correlations to metaphysical experience be it spiritual or alien related from sleep disorders to schizophrenic symptoms to evidence of electromagnetic brain activity do not in my view invalidate the experiences In fact they may merely be markers or even the secondary effects of the less tangible experiences I think if we stopped dismissing things that have possible physical symptoms used to assume those symptoms are a cause rather than an effect we might find interesting ways to document and even recreate those less tangible events under controlled conditions Misc Troubles with Discussing All This I don t agree with some of the people who are inclined to say that the body is merely a host like some sort of hotel I ve had more reason to conclude this than most people will ever have and yet I see it as an incorrect paradigm and in my opinion just another version of the original sin theory that the body is somehow bad so if we don t want to be bad we re not really our bodies we re something else And people are afraid of identifying with the body since it dies and they want to survive that death This whole denial of the physical plane is as silly as the denial of other aspects of existence They re all important and they re all us The idea that the body is separate from the mind and psychology has been well disproved by far better experts than myself the body and mind are intrinsically connected at the least I m more inclined to say they are the same thing from different perspectives There is a very interesting theory called Biogram developed by Dr Richard Johnson which approaches via scientific and chemical means this very idea The communication and feedback works both ways I feel the body is not merely a shell but an integral part of identity and part of the overall Being which we ll call the Soul for lack of a better word I use that one for convenience not religion o0o When people having contact experiences try to relate them they re often lost for words when it comes to describing the physicality of it It s a dream but not it s physical but not there can be bruises when your body didn t seem to leave the bed and no sign at all when you could swear it had or vice versa One is left very confused Sometimes the overall impression is about 80 physical How does one describe that to a researcher who is still holding to a belief system that says one is either fully physical or only dreaming Researchers are forced to conclude that if it didn t happen in the frequency we call here with physical evidence or photographs it was a dream or hallucination But the concept It wasn t physical so it had to be a dream is just another version of They all look alike to me Plain ignorance We re just so unfamiliar with the idea of there being more than one level of reality and different degrees of tangibility that we are unable to see the differences Black or white we say any shades of gray we encounter we cannot even conceptualize we force the definition of them into one or the other of our polarities o0o The physicality misunderstanding also creates the endless arguments between real and valid One has to be careful with the words used in discussions about this subject the semantics become important definitions are hard enough to come by If I say I had a realistic dream people don t assume it s real though they might accept it s valid but only to you If I say something happened fully in 3D they assume it s real and therefore that it is objectively valid even for them This would be fine if 90 of this field wasn t other than 3D Since little of it is fully in this plane of perception this view merely tosses the vast majority of the only data we have for study already confusing out the window as invalid But how does a person like me who experiences this explain the in betweens or the boths or the neithers Or explain the shifts from one to another And how can the non experiencing researchers know what to take as data to analyze In quantum physics it has been determined that observing an experiment with particles affects their behavior By this model one could say that since you re affecting your own experiment that the results are hardly objective and the results of what the particles naturally do are therefore invalid as controlled experiments True But the fact is the particles do X or Y Whether or not this is because we knew of this or had desires of one or the other beforehand or were watching the X or Y still exist and the movement of the particles still happened Yes how the particle behaved or reached X or Y point and which it reached may be affected by the scientist s own interference But that does not make one assume that either the movement of the particles or where they moved to did not happen or does not exist merely because both issues were subjectively influenced by the researcher s mind Of course they were So what The same holds true in my opinion for the contact field That we may self create or tune into certain types of Beings or experiences after thinking about something along those lines or after a certain type of childhood that may affect our perception certainly makes things subjective But confirming accounts around the world and throughout time indicate to me that this does not invalidate the experience The Rainbow of Soul My overall theory on how this could be possible and how it works Please bear in mind the following important facts Nothing I say is particularly unique I have found after developing it This is my overall theory but I don t claim to have invented anything This is my compilation and interpretation however so if it sounds or is completely stupid you can blame me Don t blame the systems I use as examples I don t know any of them well enough to represent them If you haven t read the case study book bewilderness you will be lacking some context for why I came up with the theories I have The experiences and perceptions recounted in that letter book are part of the foundation for my conclusions and to some degree you might say support my reasoning I m forced to say and it s like THIS as if that is the final answer It detracts from a document to fill it with perhaps maybe somewhat could be and all those caveats It doesn t mean I m not open to being wrong or being educated by others I use the word frequency constantly when trying to explain this This is my perception of the dynamics related to different rates of vibration different planes of existence or levels of reality etc I am not a physicist I ve never even had a class in it I may be using the wrong word and in this area may have no clue what I m talking about Sorry Maybe someday a physicist will read my case study and educate me a little further To begin imagine this if you will A sine wave with high even curves Consider that sine wave a larger reality Draw a red line horizontally through it The red line is your level of physical reality Meaning what the human body brain is able to biologically perceive 1 Imagine that the red line is really a red sine wave limited to that smaller tighter shape Above the red lines are other lines I use colors in a rainbow analogy Each of those other colors are frequency groupings I call them other planes or other levels of reality Though divisible for infinity I separate this into obvious bandwidths to keep it simple The single rainbow shown in total is your overall consciousness your full Self or soul This is only for reference and for ease of conversation here The bottom and top loop ends of the sine wave should be considered infinite in both directions And there are many of those rainbows above and below ours The top most bandwidth of the frequency below ours overlaps with our bottom most bandwidth you might say this is like an octave in music and the same goes for the top of our own and so on We are part of a continuum That is the key Our physical reality and body is one aspect of a spectrum Physicality the degree of density of the mass of our bodies is merely a point of reference on a scale and needs something to be compared to for it to have any meaning The body seems more or less solid depending on which part of the spectrum one is focusing attention through It relates to where your perception is so to speak Tangibility comes in degrees So one is not merely physical or not like some either or choice One is not even astral or not Technically one is all simultaneously and perception is the moving point There are an almost infinite number of degrees not only within each state or color in this example but between them Between red and orange for example there are a number of shades that are a little bit both and neither Like light we contain all the colors they merely seem separate because we are only viewing this band It s our vision that is limited We perceive just a tiny slice of who we really are By this theory one could go someplace in a dream on the color scale let s say your perception moved to around the yellow band slide into a more tangible state the astral or orange slide into physical reality as we know it physical or red and back again Because perception is the moving point One could even be in between any given state meaning a little of both I suppose it would be a matter of vibration speed and resultant frequency in other words that s something that could be possible via technology further down the road That s why contact experiences can start as a dream or OBE but become physical or vice versa These are my theories anyway I think when it comes to reality our brains work in same way vision is said to we take those points we perceive and put them together logically and the brain fills in the gaps blanks with what s expected or extrapolated and then presents you with a seemingly seamless picture experience In this way anomalous experiences are quite literally reading between the lines of reality 1 What the body perceives directly may not be the same thing as what it reflects The body may be able to absorb and reflect measurable through biofeedback or other means information that was actually perceived through a different level of the overall consciousness For instance one may perceive data at the orange astral level but all other levels of the person including the red physical level may in a holographic sense reflect this knowledge And there may be a physiological component in the body which effects this translation of the data into this level of reality Since the whole body reflects knowledge from other planes my guess is that any such translator is probably in the brain or nervous system if it exists However the perception itself did not come through the body because the data is outside the range of frequency the physical body spans Where are we Our overall consciousness spans lots of frequency levels Our bodies however as we know them span a much smaller bandwidth and one a bit more hardwired to stay the same size Our bodies are just one portion of the grouping of our consciousness or soul In my rainbow allegory I consider the overall consciousness soul the white light full spectrum and manifestation of that light The Rainbow of Soul In this the physical body as we know it can be considered the red band of color in the rainbow The astral body would be the orange color The mental body the yellow color And so on Technically ANY grouping even between red and orange green and blue etc is just as much form within that frequency as those defined are When you are perceiving from the part of you which is for example in the orange band you are just as physical compared to what is around you as you are when you are conscious in the red band and looking around at what we call physical reality You may not be physical compared to the red band when you are in the orange band but if everything else in that level of reality is the same density as yourself when you perceive yourself there it hardly matters ALL of our forms in these color bands as I call them exist at ALL times It is our perception which is the moving point We are aware on those levels and interacting with other planes levels of reality that biologically we simply are not attuned to This is simultaneous of course with our awareness here Sometimes when people dream they become aware of a small piece of their existence on another plane Sometimes people for reasons still unknown begin to perceive their existence on those other planes at the same time they are perceiving this one That can be very confusing Most of the time if we re lucky our conscious perception that normally in the red band is focused at least dominantly in the range of frequency red that the physical body resides in This makes us aware of how our body feels and what is going on around us Sometimes we are more focused here than others From here to there As an example of perception as the moving point let s consider out of body experiences 2 2 By this I am being literal I mean that one s perception of oneself moves completely OUT of the body I am not referring to psi disassociation which many psychics confuse as a form of being out of body When your perception leaves your body you may still be in the bandwidth of the physical plane You may see reality around you just like you did when you were IN your body As your perception moves toward astral orange on the scale the reality you perceive will change First things may seem mostly the same yet slightly variant A chair may be in a different place Your coat may be on the back of the chair rather than lying on the bed As you continue toward astral more significant changes may be clear and some features of normal reality may disappear from your perception You begin to perceive more of the reality and the life there and less of what is here You may see your cat who died years before sleeping on your bed You may encounter entities or discover that the tree outside your house seems to be sentient The farther you go into this bandwidth the more different things become At some point you will lose most if not all perception of what we would call our physical reality the red band because your perception has moved outside that range into the orange band 3 The more in the physical bandwidth you are the more you can physically feel things in your environment that you touch Here as we know it if you walk up to a wall and don t stop you re going to feel it painfully when you run into it In the orange band you may go right through a wall and feel it as if your body were made of water or some solid yet not solid substance Entities that touch you may register quite physically to your perception as if they were totally solid and yet somehow were able to reach inside your body As your perception moves more into the astral and then yellow band you may cease to be aware of any physical feelings you can pass through the wall as if it is not even there 3 The dynamics of how reality operates are different from one bandwidth to another or rather they are probably the same but the way we interpret them and utilize them changes The life encountered there and how one interacts is also quite different I won t go into life in the astral plane because a I m certainly no expert on that and b that is an entirely separate subject As you move further toward the mental yellow bandwidth things continue to change For example you may not only not FEEL the wall you pass through it might not even exist and you may find that the moment you think of something for instance your friend in another city suddenly either your friend is there with you or you are somewhere else with your friend Awareness of form such as one s body may often vanish altogether You still may operate as if you have a form You simply may not be pointedly aware of it The above is just a simple example Your physical body did not go anywhere Your perception however did Your body especially if your perception moved into astral orange but was still partly in this physical red may show physical symptoms and evidence of your experience Because it IS partly physical and or is close enough to it in many cases that the body is still affected Your interaction with anybody or anything on other levels of frequency is just as valid as interactions you may have in your body YOU are the full spectrum your body is only one part of you Our perception is not only not static fixed but it is not static solid It can be split into more than one place of attention on the scale This is often referred to as bi location But bi location of what is a good question We know that a person can be aware of part of the body bandwidth and yet be aware of other bandwidths Psychics do this all the time with disassociation they may be conscious of the body environment and writing down data and yet at the same time they are exploring a realm such as the astral which otherwise is usually only encountered when one is out of body If one s perception were to be split into separate parts and yet both were at least partly in the realm of the physical frequencies what do you suppose would happen I don t know but I strongly suspect this is related to the legends of individuals such as certain saints being in more than one place at a time What if your perception moved but you didn t realize it had done so There is much confusion in today s world as people experience things on other levels and then try to construct a version of physical reality to explain how it happened here I believe this has given rise to much of the mind control paranoia in today s world Not that the subject itself is not valid I know nothing about it Just that it is getting blamed for a lot of things it probably has no part of This may be happening partly because our culture is totally invalidating of any experience which does not happen in the bandwidth where the body resides Since people know that their experience was real and valid and since they have been indoctrinated to believe that anything outside the body bandwidth is illusion and invalid they are forced into 1 a major cognitive dissonance 2 changing their perspective on the reality of other planes or 3 finding a way to explain how the experience actually happened here in the reality of the body planes When experiences or perceptions from outside the body bandwidth happen to a person who is extremely grounded in the skeptical scientistic viewpoint our culture has drilled into us particularly if the person is highly intellectual and tied to that view the cognitive dissonance may literally drive them into a form of schizophrenia to deal with the two mutually opposing reality views This could be avoided were our culture in the West better educated and accepting about things that have been known in parts of the East for millenia How do we see over there Anything outside the red bandwidth in my example will not be directly perceived by us biologically It may be reflected through or translated through our biology even if perceived from a different color band of frequency But that is in direct As time goes on and we become more and more aware that there are things outside our biological bandwidth of frequency we invent technologies to perceive energy from other bandwidths so we can indirectly be aware of and measure them Technologies such as ultrasound X ray machines magnetic resonance imaging kirlian photography microwave ovens etc all utilize frequencies of energy that biologically we do not directly perceive 4 We probably don t yet perceive more than a few of these frequencies so far 4 We may group many frequency levels or skip frequency levels without realizing it of course In my experience the individual frequency levels as I m calling them are INCREDIBLY thin so to speak In other words there could be an infinite number of levels of reality within what we here would consider one fairly small band of frequency or vibration For that matter how do we see here The human body can be thought of as a biological filter When we look at a tree our perception of the tree is just that our perception At a more fundamental level that tree is nothing more than energy Vibrating energy Its density and solidity its shape and color and texture and smell and everything else about it is simply vibrating energy which is trapped into a certain form It is the filter of our bodies that perceives the colors smell texture hardness etc We have also invented technologies that filter our own bandwidth in different ways Video recorders or cameras can record the same frequency band that we biologically perceive and interpret as sight Audio recorders capture sound even though sound is also just energy Temperature anything you can imagine that we measure in our daily lives all these things are simply energy It is our body which perceives them as heat light music etc Is reality an illusion How solid a given thing seems to us relates to its rate of vibration compared to our own For instance light does not seem solid to us at all gases seem more solid but still not solid water is a solid and yet certainly not as solid to the senses as a tree and so on Rocks seem more solid than we are some gemstones such as diamonds more solid still If our perception was tuned to a part of our consciousness that vibrates at the same frequency hydrogen gas does my guess is that gas would seem quite solid to us Perhaps it is the same for life in any other frequency They seem quite solid to each other because they exist at fairly similar levels of vibration To them our bodies here are not solid They may be literally here as we know it and yet we do not perceive each other at all Or their vibration may be so much faster smaller that we seem like immobile mountains or stones in their landscape When yoga masters say that reality is an illusion they are not wrong Technically that tree does exist However its true state is energy If it seems solid that is simply our translated perception of it Or as a humorous play on the same logic scientists use for subjective perception our own illusion Is it possible that frequencies we can t record or understand are just not there Maybe But our tools and technologies have been designed to replicate biological means of perceiving Although we are gradually moving beyond that we are still in beginning stages Not only do we not measure very far beyond our biological frequency bandwidth compared to what the universe may truly offer but many scientists seem to think that nothing beyond what we can already measure even exists Imagine if scientists had concluded this a few hundred years ago and given up on the search for individual cells molecules atoms electrons etc Or had not discovered any frequencies of energy beyond what we currently can measure The only thing surprising is that scientists today seem to be sure that we know most of what there is to know and scientists have instead become technologists not searching to discover new things but rather studying how already known already measurable and fairly well understood things relate to each other The contact phenomenon has provided a large field of empirical evidence that there is something else we need to study If only our scientists were interested or open to it perhaps for example a theoretical physicist could come up with some new insight about where or how to look How come we don t see other life when we look with our technologies What do we expect sentience to look like Like us apparently Scientists technologists do not even grant us humans any real sentience only biological effect They do not grant animals mammals like us sentience They certainly don t grant it to plants insects or solid forms such as minerals So we can hardly be surprised that they do not find sentience in the rest of the universe since they have not even found it on this planet and in this reality With contact we are talking about frequencies outside the bandwidth we call solid People around the world and throughout time have been talking about life forms that are not solid or on some occasions partially solid ghosts for example Try telling most technologists that you have encountered a ghost Watch them laugh To them if it isn t physical you must have either been fooled by something or you hallucinated it Our technologists or scientists are not willing to consider any form of life but what we already know and don t even grant greater consciousness to that So they not only don t look for it but they wouldn t know it even if they found it and wouldn t believe it either Since we think all life has to look just like what we know and since we can t perceive any of these things directly anything we find ways of translating to our own biological perception just seems like energy All

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  • Bewilderness by PJ Gaenir About the author
    interesting experiences Out of body experiences psi and a few visions but I have not had any of the truly mind bending seemingly physical kind of stuff that went on as recounted in Bewilderness As soon as I left Ventura County California most of it vanished Even the positive things as well as the weird things Life suddenly became quite mundane Not only did most interesting experiences disappear but most of what I might call my psychic awareness vanished as well Lucid dreams which I had constantly all my life vanished Out of body experiences which I had in cycles regularly vanished My memory formerly pretty astounding is not nearly as good anymore My spelling is often phonetic instead of accurate and other right brain oriented changes The breeziness of my reality convenient coincidence amazing timing luck etc vanished as well If anything I feel rather like I have devolved a few light years but am not sure why I usually don t even remember my dreams let alone anything else I don t know why this stuff doesn t happen to me anymore I don t know if it will come back I m not sure how I feel about that On one hand I miss it On the other hand I do admit that I begged it to give me a break and let me rest for awhile I ve certainly had that On October 31 1998 I was introduced to the topic of remote viewing and the U S government s involvement with that subject Since that time I ve become very interested in the subject very involved with it in a few ways and am pleased to call a number of people in the field friends Some people tell me that they find it non coincidental

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