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    the event of an insurrection With his own army force now his power to call a group of protesters or angry voters insurgents staging an insurrection is strengthened U S Rep Brad Sherman of California said to Congress captured on C Span and viewable on YouTube that individual members of the House were threatened with martial law within a week if they did not pass the bailout bill The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day and a couple of thousand on the second day and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no If this is true and Rep Sherman is not delusional I ask you to consider that if they are willing to threaten martial law now it is foolish to assume they will never use that threat again It is also foolish to trust in an orderly election process to resolve this threat And why deploy the First Brigade One thing the deployment accomplishes is to put teeth into such a threat I interviewed Vietnam veteran retired U S Air Force Colonel and patriot David Antoon for clarification If the President directed the First Brigade to arrest Congress what could stop him Nothing Their only recourse is to cut off funding The Congress would be at the mercy of military leaders to go to them and ask them not to obey illegal orders But these orders are now legal Correct If the President directs the First Brigade to arrest a bunch of voters what would stop him Nothing It would end up in courts but the action would have been taken If the President directs the First Brigade to kill civilians what would stop him Nothing What would prevent him from sending the First Brigade to arrest the editor of the Washington Post Nothing He could do what he did in Iraq send a tank down a street in Washington and fire a shell into the Washington Post as they did into Al Jazeera and claim they were firing at something else What happens to members of the First Brigade who refuse to take up arms against U S citizens They d probably be treated as deserters as in Iraq arrested detained and facing five years in prison In Iraq a study by Ann Wright shows that deserters reservists who refused to go back to Iraq got longer sentences than war criminals Does Congress have any military of their own No Congress has no direct control of any military units The Governors have the National Guard but they report to the President in an emergency that he declares Who can arrest the President The Attorney General can arrest the President after he leaves or after

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    event of an insurrection With his own army force now his power to call a group of protesters or angry voters insurgents staging an insurrection is strengthened U S Rep Brad Sherman of California said to Congress captured on C Span and viewable on YouTube that individual members of the House were threatened with martial law within a week if they did not pass the bailout bill The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day and a couple of thousand on the second day and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no If this is true and Rep Sherman is not delusional I ask you to consider that if they are willing to threaten martial law now it is foolish to assume they will never use that threat again It is also foolish to trust in an orderly election process to resolve this threat And why deploy the First Brigade One thing the deployment accomplishes is to put teeth into such a threat I interviewed Vietnam veteran retired U S Air Force Colonel and patriot David Antoon for clarification If the President directed the First Brigade to arrest Congress what could stop him Nothing Their only recourse is to cut off funding The Congress would be at the mercy of military leaders to go to them and ask them not to obey illegal orders But these orders are now legal Correct If the President directs the First Brigade to arrest a bunch of voters what would stop him Nothing It would end up in courts but the action would have been taken If the President directs the First Brigade to kill civilians what would stop him Nothing What would prevent him from sending the First Brigade to arrest the editor of the Washington Post Nothing He could do what he did in Iraq send a tank down a street in Washington and fire a shell into the Washington Post as they did into Al Jazeera and claim they were firing at something else What happens to members of the First Brigade who refuse to take up arms against U S citizens They d probably be treated as deserters as in Iraq arrested detained and facing five years in prison In Iraq a study by Ann Wright shows that deserters reservists who refused to go back to Iraq got longer sentences than war criminals Does Congress have any military of their own No Congress has no direct control of any military units The Governors have the National Guard but they report to the President in an emergency that he declares Who can arrest the President The Attorney General can arrest the President after he leaves or after impeachment

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    overseas And having talked to commanders who have returned those situations are largely nonviolent non kinetic And when they do escalate the soldiers have a lot of experience with seeing the indicators and understanding it So I would say that our soldiers are trustworthy They can deploy in the homeland and American citizens can be confident that there will be no abuses AG Matt Rothschild MR Well you know that doesn t really satisfy me and I don t think it should satisfy your listeners and your audience Amy because you know our people in the field in Iraq some of them have not behaved up to the highest standards and a lot of police forces in the United States who have been using these tasers have used them inappropriately The whole question here about what the Pentagon is doing patrolling in the United States gets to the real heart of the matter which is do we have a democracy here I mean there is a law on the books called the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act that says that the president of the United States as commander in chief cannot put the military on our streets And this is a violation of that it seems to me President Bush tried to get around this act a couple years ago in the Defense Authorization Act that he signed that got rid of some of those restrictions and then last year in the new Defense Authorization Act thanks to the work of Senator Patrick Leahy and Kit Bond of Missouri that was stripped away And so the President isn t supposed to be using the military in this fashion and though the President true to form appended a signing statement to that saying he s not going to be governed by that So here we have a situation where the President of United States has been aggrandizing his power and this gives him a whole brigade unit to use against U S citizens here at home AG Colonel Michael Boatner what about the Posse Comitatus Act and where does that fit in when U S troops are deployed on U S soil MR It absolutely governs in every instance We are not allowed to help enforce the law We don t do that Every time we get a request and again this kind of a deployment is defense support to civil authority under the National Response Framework and the Stafford Act And we do it all the time in response to hurricanes floods fires and things like that But again you know if we review the requirement that comes to us from civil authority and it has any complexion of law enforcement whatsoever it gets rejected and pushed back because it s not lawful AG Matthew Rothschild does this satisfy you MR No it doesn t One of the reasons it doesn t is not by what Boatner was saying right there but what President Bush has been doing

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    overseas And having talked to commanders who have returned those situations are largely nonviolent non kinetic And when they do escalate the soldiers have a lot of experience with seeing the indicators and understanding it So I would say that our soldiers are trustworthy They can deploy in the homeland and American citizens can be confident that there will be no abuses AG Matt Rothschild MR Well you know that doesn t really satisfy me and I don t think it should satisfy your listeners and your audience Amy because you know our people in the field in Iraq some of them have not behaved up to the highest standards and a lot of police forces in the United States who have been using these tasers have used them inappropriately The whole question here about what the Pentagon is doing patrolling in the United States gets to the real heart of the matter which is do we have a democracy here I mean there is a law on the books called the Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act that says that the president of the United States as commander in chief cannot put the military on our streets And this is a violation of that it seems to me President Bush tried to get around this act a couple years ago in the Defense Authorization Act that he signed that got rid of some of those restrictions and then last year in the new Defense Authorization Act thanks to the work of Senator Patrick Leahy and Kit Bond of Missouri that was stripped away And so the President isn t supposed to be using the military in this fashion and though the President true to form appended a signing statement to that saying he s not going to be governed by that So here we have a situation where the President of United States has been aggrandizing his power and this gives him a whole brigade unit to use against U S citizens here at home AG Colonel Michael Boatner what about the Posse Comitatus Act and where does that fit in when U S troops are deployed on U S soil MR It absolutely governs in every instance We are not allowed to help enforce the law We don t do that Every time we get a request and again this kind of a deployment is defense support to civil authority under the National Response Framework and the Stafford Act And we do it all the time in response to hurricanes floods fires and things like that But again you know if we review the requirement that comes to us from civil authority and it has any complexion of law enforcement whatsoever it gets rejected and pushed back because it s not lawful AG Matthew Rothschild does this satisfy you MR No it doesn t One of the reasons it doesn t is not by what Boatner was saying right there but what President Bush has been doing

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    will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out In the meantime they ll learn new skills use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical biological radiological nuclear or high yield explosive or CBRNE attack Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the jaws of life to extract a person from a mangled vehicle extra medical training for a CBRNE incident and working with U S Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area The 1st BCT s soldiers also will learn how to use the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded 1st BCT commander Col Roger Cloutier said referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them The package is for use only in war zone operations not for any domestic purpose It s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they re fielding They ve been using pieces of it in Iraq but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded and because of this mission we re undertaking we were the first to get it The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block spike strips for slowing stopping or controlling traffic shields and batons and beanbag bullets I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered said Cloutier describing the experience as your worst muscle cramp ever times 10 throughout your whole body I m not a small guy I weigh 230 pounds it put me on my knees in seconds The brigade will not change its name but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force or CCMRF pronounced sea smurf I can t think of a more noble mission than this said Cloutier who took command in July We ve been all over the world during this time of conflict but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home and depending on where an event occurred you re going home to take care of your home town your loved ones While soldiers combat training is applicable he said some nuances don t apply If we go in we re going in to help American citizens on American soil to save lives provide critical life support help clear debris restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do so it s kind of a different role said Cloutier who as the division operations officer on the last

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    will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out In the meantime they ll learn new skills use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical biological radiological nuclear or high yield explosive or CBRNE attack Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the jaws of life to extract a person from a mangled vehicle extra medical training for a CBRNE incident and working with U S Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area The 1st BCT s soldiers also will learn how to use the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded 1st BCT commander Col Roger Cloutier said referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them The package is for use only in war zone operations not for any domestic purpose It s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they re fielding They ve been using pieces of it in Iraq but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded and because of this mission we re undertaking we were the first to get it The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block spike strips for slowing stopping or controlling traffic shields and batons and beanbag bullets I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered said Cloutier describing the experience as your worst muscle cramp ever times 10 throughout your whole body I m not a small guy I weigh 230 pounds it put me on my knees in seconds The brigade will not change its name but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force or CCMRF pronounced sea smurf I can t think of a more noble mission than this said Cloutier who took command in July We ve been all over the world during this time of conflict but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home and depending on where an event occurred you re going home to take care of your home town your loved ones While soldiers combat training is applicable he said some nuances don t apply If we go in we re going in to help American citizens on American soil to save lives provide critical life support help clear debris restore normalcy and support whatever local agencies need us to do so it s kind of a different role said Cloutier who as the division operations officer on the last

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