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    colliding The sky at that time was clear and completely cloud free I immediately looked westward and saw a large aircraft heading south towards Belleharbor flying out of Kennedy at approximately 2 000 feet Flames and smoke were clearly visible in the rear door area and debris some large parts could be seen falling to the earth The smoke debris etc was occurring within one second or almost simultaneously with the abrupt bang I heard At that point the aircraft seemed to hesitate and drop a few hundred feet in the sky continuing for a few seconds on the same flight path heading south towards the beach and Atlantic Ocean Over Belleharbor it suddenly made a sharp turn to the left and nose dived into the ground behind some houses I was deeply shocked and prayed for the unfortunate passengers I did notice before the plane hit the ground that the wings seemed to be relatively intact The aircraft looked beautiful in the last seconds of its life with the morning sun glinting on the fuselage I had my cell phone and immediately called the 100th precinct I took note of the time which was approximately 9 17 a m

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/aa587-wit-1.htm (2016-02-13)
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    shortly Some of these individuals mentioned observing fire or smoke before the plane impacted the ground although the majority of them do not Although at this time no physical evidence of an inflight explosion or fire has been discovered the Board is taking into full consideration the observations of all witnesses Witness statements will be made part of the public docket of this investigation As previously announced the Safety Board

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/ntsb-1-16-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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    admit it 31 71 767 It s worth considering 29 52 714 Yes it s the most logical explanation 11 58 280 Not sure but I m leaning toward theory 09 26 224 No there s not enough evidence 04 67 113 Not sure 04 13 100 Yes 04 09 99 No that s an outrageous theory 02 19 53 Not sure but I m leaning against theory 02 11

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/wnd-poll-1-18-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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    low on helium Federal Housing now in many places being dynamited into oblivion The War on Poverty motto Trillions down the drain and we ain t plugged it yet and the Honey Subsidy those bees are still suffering to name but a few So Congress federalized airport screeners Then in a move guaranteed to make us feel safer the Transportation Security Administration announced that I couldn t make this up if I wanted to airport screeners will not be required to have high school diplomas I wonder what the recruiting posters are going to say Didn t finish 9th grade Have we got a job for you What about entrance exams Are they going to have something to do with Legos and finger painting But wait There s more To ensure we never offend anyone particularly fanatics intent on killing us airport screeners will not be allowed to profile people They will continue random searches of 80 year old women little kids airline pilots with proper identification Secret Service agents who are members of the President s security detail and 85 year old Congressmen with metal hips Pause a moment and take the following test In 1979 the U S embassy in Iran was taken over by a Norwegians from Ballard b Elvis c A tour bus full of 80 year old women or d Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40 In 1983 the U S Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by a A pizza delivery boy b Crazed feminists screeching that being able to throw a grenade beyond its own burst radius was an unfair and sexist requirement in basic training c Geraldo Rivera making up for a slow news day or d Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/nl-1-25-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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    02 pg 44 Frances Fiorino included this statement NTSB Chairman Marion C Blakey stressed the cause of the accident is yet to be determined What is known about AA587 she said is that the aircraft experienced two wake encounters and a series of rudder reversals on the aircraft led to the failure of the vertical stabilizer It is unknown at this point if the rudder movements caused the stabilizer s failure or if the movements were caused by the pilots Blakey emphasized As a retired airline pilot I consider it exceedingly unlikely that an experienced pilot would make a series of rudder reversal inputs if the rudder was still attached to the aircraft and the rudder was responding properly If the rudder itself had already separated from the aircraft or if it was nonfunctional and was not responding to pilot inputs then the pilot in desperation might have been making rudder pedal movements to counter whatever gyration the rudderless aircraft was experiencing Where were the above rudder reversals measured Was it rudder pedal movement or was it actual deflection of the rudder itself And if it was rudder deflection was that deflection relative to the fuselage or relative to the

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/letters/lahr-2-24-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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    lot In the movies there s always smoke and there s always fire As a result the safety board generally doesn t place much value on eyewitness reports if data and voice recorders are available For many investigators the only infallible witness is a twisted piece of metal Benjamin A Berman a former chief of major aviation investigations at the safety board said pilots actually make the worst witnesses because their technical knowledge can lead them too quickly to identify a mechanical problem that may not have occurred Children make among the best witnesses he added because they don t tend to place an interpretation on what they ve seen The safety board s skepticism of eyewitness accounts was deepened by the explosion of TWA Flight 800 off Long Island six years ago hundreds of people saw an upward streak that they assumed was a missile although investigators said it was the body of the plane itself streaking upward after the forward portion had fallen off following a fuel tank explosion THAT disaster highlighted another pitfall for investigators Mr Berman and others say F B I agents asked witnesses where the missile came from presupposing the presence of a weapon It wasn t good aircraft accident investigation Mr Berman said There are other well known cases of witness error including the crash of a Lauda Air Boeing 767 near Bangkok in May 1991 Witnesses said they heard a bomb and saw the plane fall in flames but it turned out to be a mechanical problem So why do investigators bother asking witnesses at all Dr Bernard S Loeb who retired as the safety board s director of aviation safety last year said In the case of 587 it s unlikely that the witnesses will provide much to help the investigation

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/nyt-6-23-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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    are also concerned about the strength of the A 300 s composite tail In May they delivered a petition to American management requesting ultrasound inspections of the A 300 fleet The technique can identify latent defects beneath the surface on camera So is that airbus A 300 is that graphite composite tail design unsafe UNIDENTIFIED MALE Well I think there are very serious questions about the inspection regime that airbus and the FAA and American Airlines and other operators use O BRIEN voice over But American Airlines says the inspections which require complete removal of the tail fin could do more harm than good The airline and the NTSB say if the A 300s were unsafe they would ground the fleet in an instant END VIDEOTAPE O BRIEN We asked American Airlines to comment and the company responded with this statement The notion that this story in any way furthers the real investigation of Flight 587 is ludicrous Fortunately we don t think the American public depends upon publications like Vanity Fair for credible investigative information on aviation safety and neither should CNN Airbus has this to say The tabloidesque narrative irrationally suggests that the opinions of a small group of people are of more relevance than the ongoing work of the professional investigators Safety remains the highest priority of all in the aviation community We asked the NTSB if they could provide us somebody on camera to talk with about this investigation They decided not to but we do have somebody with us who is an expert on such matters Jim Hall former chairman of the NTSB who handled some of the most complicated cases in the history of the board joining us now from Washington Good to have you with us Mr Hall JIM HALL FORMER NTSB CHAIRMAN Good afternoon Miles O BRIEN All right we re nine months post Flight 587 The theories continue to abound not a lot of facts coming out Is that something that we should consider unusual or is that the way it goes now with these complicated investigations HALL Well it s certainly not unusual and obviously the focus of this story is of this show is based on this Vanity Fair article that Mr Rose wrote in which he basically put words into the NTSB s mouth formed conclusions for the agency that are still under investigation The TWA accident investigation took us four years U S Air 427 took an almost four year period of time The board is doing a very responsible job as it always does and to do that and do a thorough professional investigation requires time O BRIEN Of course journalism being such as it is sometimes deadlines and pressures bring out stories like this And I m curious as an investigator on the inside of these investigations does it hinder your ability to get the job done at all HALL No not at all Obviously I think the investigators you know follow the news and

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/cnn-8-6-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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    lost their lives on the ground but for the city of New York still reeling from the attacks of September 11 and the entire nation This hearing is part of the fact finding phase of our investigation of the second deadliest aviation accident in United States history On November 12 2002 American Airlines flight 587 an Airbus A300 600 on a scheduled flight to Santo Domingo crashed into a neighborhood in Belle Harbor New York shortly after takeoff from John F Kennedy International Airport killing all 260 persons aboard and 5 on the ground The plane s vertical stabilizer and rudder and both engines separated from the aircraft before it impacted the ground Safety issues to be examined at the hearing are The certification standards for the vertical stabilizer and rudder Continuing airworthiness inspection procedures Airplane manufacturers rudder system design philosophies Pilot training and The potential role of wake turbulence in the accident sequence This will be an en banc hearing meaning that all Board Members will participate with Acting Chairman Carmody presiding Technical witnesses will be called to offer testimony addressing one or more of the identified issues They will be questioned by the Board Members a technical panel

    Original URL path: http://twa800.com/news/ntsb-9-19-02.htm (2016-02-13)
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