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  • UFOs: The Secret History Blu-Ray
    of former self Geographic However many people do not seem to notice the difference between High and Standard definition nor for that matter do they care accustomed as they are to watching You Tube videos of cats peeing in toilets on their Cell phones So I m asking anyone interested in a Blu Ray that would sell for 20 25 to e mail me at info nul with the subject

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/apr/m29-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Everyone expects it to go higher!
    it to go higher From Wilfred Benson josedonadio nul Date Sun 28 Apr 2013 22 19 01 0400 Archived Sun 28 Apr 2013 22 19 01 0400 Subject Everyone expects it to go higher Next Message Previous Message This Day

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/apr/m28-004.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of
    Subject Re Physiological Psychological Effects Of Adrenaline snip Joe But seriously it is fascinating Jerome Clark just keeps shelving you and this is entertaining for the rest of us but does it not kind of get to you that your arguments creak so loudly If you were to be a bit more subtle about how you entertain concepts this would be a winning approach You mean like Jerry the Guru

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/aug/m01-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of
    is interesting how the mind works and one that needs to be taken into account when investigating eyewitness accounts I can only go by experience and my own reactions to a sighting That s exactly what I am saying that the way the mind works needs to be considered when dealing with witness accounts It wasn t until the object was actually over my head that the thought entered my head that it was a UFO possibly extraterrestrial and maybe an experimental aircraft or remote controlled vehicle Different people respond differently I have seen reports which turned out to be Chinese lanterns viewed from a distance where people claimed emotional effects and even communication My mind tried to rationalize what was flying towards me and came up with all sorts of explanations these are split second thoughts There was no adrenaline rush no panic and certainly no terror That is a common reaction There are also numerous accounts from people who mention that the hairs on the back of their neck stood up or that they got goose pimples while all this was going through their mind When it was over my head I felt fear but not in a terrorizing way but rather still trying to rationalize it I have seen a variety of reported reactions ranging from fear to wonderment to a deep sensation of inner peace Again some witnesses react in different ways My sighting was reported and Larry Fenwick from CUFORN took the info We did speak on the phone but he was very paranoid about phone tapping etc which is also apparent in John Keel s book The Mothman Prophencies Is there some irrational fear amongst UFO investigators Certainly in some cases some are certifiably and in one case I am aware of certified paranoid

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/aug/m01-002.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Oz-Factor
    Jerome Clark jkclark nul To post nul Date Tue 30 Jul 2013 08 24 27 0500 Subject Oz Factor was Physiological Psychological Effects Of Adrenaline Joe It seems obvious that you don t even know what the Oz factor is You re quitting while you re behind which demonstrates that at least in this one regard you have more sense than I would have credited you with Of course you will continue your discourse with those who know as little of the phenomenon s dynamics as you do Jerry After reading the latest UFO debates on such issues I am starting to feel that I live in a non real world It s all made up of imaginary factors and circumstances or so we are led to believe and nothing humans witness is real What is your view on ancient shamanic Cultures Is there Any evidence that they have had any impact on such debates Such as this one i e Psychological Effects of Adrenaline Or is this a non starter in this area of research Roy Listen to Strange Days Indeed The PodCast At http www virtuallystrange net ufo sdi program These contents above are copyright of the author

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/aug/m01-003.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: A Journey Through The Past - Cox
    makes certain assumptions and next thing you know is you ve got a label hanging around your neck and the rhetorical sludge gets so deep and ridiculous you need scuba gear to keep from drowning in it Remember that X Files poster with the Billy Meier beamship photo I Want To Believe What the f is wrong with people They ll believe anything Well you know what Wanting to believe is a lot different from wanting to understand Two completely different things And as an extreme experiencer who s also a skeptic there s no way I can win I ll never win this one Never ever This is an excerpt from a recent chat with David Biedny the former co host of The Paracast a weekly webcast promoting discussions on various aspects of the paranormal More at site Some UFO Updates Listers may need to be reminded that one cannot always believe what Billy Cox proclaims In this case he implied that the various Billy Meier beamship photos that became X file posters stamped I Want To Believe had been hoaxes of some kind Gaining an understanding of what s real and what s not can require honest and comprehensive investigation by initially unbiased investigators This is just what the Meier case has received over the past 35 years from Wendelle Stevens Lee and Brit Elders Guido Moosbrugger Gary Kinder Michael Hesemann Jaime Maussan and Michael Horn They found no way the case could be a hoax However those who want to believe the pro hoax conclusions of Kal Korff are free to do so But I would urge they look into the history of the Billy Meier debunkings starting in 1977 ebk permitting see http www tjresearch info Review Clark htm where one will find that the reason

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/aug/m01-004.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • New Article On '79 UFO Squad Car Hit
    Do you believe Thousands Seek Out Artifact From 1979 UFO Encounter In Warren Minn by Ryan Bakken Online http tinyurl com lr2rcql Subsequent Posts shortened a little Fargo N Dak Forum http www inforum com event article id 407072 Minneapolis Minn Star Tribune http www startribune com local 217325781 html and a variation http www startribune com nation 217334721 html Denver Colo Post http tinyurl com k6uurz5 Rich Heiden Listen

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/aug/m01-005.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of
    0100 Subject Re Physiological Psychological Effects Of Adrenaline Hello David Joe List I wasn t sure if to respond to your original post because it seemed to get quite heated There s no heat at this end and the only real heat I ve noticed was from someone s library burning However it is interesting how the mind works and one that needs to be taken into account when investigating eyewitness accounts I can only go by experience and my own reactions to a sighting That s exactly what I am saying that the way the mind works needs to be considered when dealing with witness accounts That s not what comes across Joe What comes across is an unwillingness to address the the issue of cause and effect in any kind of rigorous or systematic way It seems that you are not at all interested in considering whether the way the mind works can be the result of external objective triggers some of which might lay outside conventional explanation Instead of taking any kind of systematic approach to things you come across as as a rather clumsy sceptical spin doctor making reference to anecdotal evidence that demonstrates to your mind that ordinary folk see Chinese lanterns and have pseudo spiritual experiences as a consequence The implication seems to be that we can generalise from this to a pervasive unreliability of witness reports together with an underlying view to the effect that it s all in the mind It would clarify matters if you would let us know whether you believe that the way the mind works is the primary explanatory factor in all sightings of anomalous aerial phenomena At least we would then know where you are coming from If your answer is not in every case you might

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/aug/m01-006.shtml (2016-02-13)
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