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  • 1956 Radar Witness Report Manitoba Canada
    Radar Station Veterans Re Project Blue Book Amplifying Air Intelligence Information Report Sun Jan 27 2013 1 32 pm PST Posted by Lee stookguy This is what I contributed to a researcher some years ago When I saw the project Blue Book heading I decided to send this along I was in the United States Air Force I was stationed at the 916th AC W Site located near Beausejour and at Milner Ridge Manitoba It was in the fall of 1956 when this happened You are probably wondering how an American was stationed there During that era we were in the middle of the cold war with the Warsaw Pact Missiles were pointed over the pole and threats real or imagined were on everyone C2 92s mind I was on duty in the radar operations building manning the scopes and calling in plots of aircraft in the area I noticed a return in the Northeast quadrant approx 175 miles from the site It was a strong return therefore I was convinced it was an aircraft The next trace showed it very far from the first plot Since there was no other traffic in that area and seldom any was there I suspected I had a false signal In order to confirm I checked the HRI height range indicator In plotting the track thru dead reckoning I saw the return at 75 000 feet When it came up on the scope again I set another dead reckon and spotted it again at the same altitude The speed was in the range of 6 000 to 7 500 knots That was faster than any known aircraft at the time If I had not confirmed its location on the two independent systems I would have just passed it off as a malfunction I

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  • Ready to Breakout above Resistance
    Breakout above Resistance From traquita s hartsfield nul Date Sat 19 Jan 2013 19 43 51 0300 Archived Sat 19 Jan 2013 19 43 51 0300 Subject Ready to Breakout above Resistance Short Term Target 1 70 Trade MO NK Company MONARCHY RESOURCES Date Thu Aug 22nd 2013 Current price 0 19 Just Released Momentum Power Play This Stock could be ride of our lives Next Message Previous Message This

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  • Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident
    important audio of the 1992 debate in Denver between him and Phil Klass which was organized by Michael Corbin at the time During that historical debate Klass made the infamous comment about the Valentich incident suggesting that there is reason to suspect that Valentich who was a very young and inexperienced pilot may have been on a drug running mission Audio of the debate was broadcast in Don s show Dark Matters Radio and you can download it here from this link http tinyurl com p9jvru3 snip If Klass wasn t a paid shill for the dis information sections of the US Intelligence communities I would be really surprised Imagine making the leap from four life jackets on a four place airplane which was required by the air regulations when flying over water whether the seats were filled or not to a drug smuggler Klass worked for an aerospace magazine yet seemed to be oblivious to the workings of the aviation community The man was shameless and an embarrassment to not only to himself but the community he worked for Thanks for the URLs Guiliano Don Ledger Rather than hard cash Klass s reward was more likely in the way

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  • Re: Binding Force Detector By Bill Beaty?
    Geographic areas snip Hi Eleanor I don t know much about Bill Beaty s version of Wilbert B Smith s detector but I did construct my own version in 2006 It is documented at the following links http www treurniet ca Smith http www treurniet ca Smith BFMeterExp1 htm snip Hi Eleanor and William It s an interesting problem which has bothered me a great deal and an answer can be attempted in various ways but Bill Beaty s method seems the simplest Other ways maybe starting with the most cumbersome would be an apparatus showing any change of critical point where an element can change from gas to liquid to solid under equal pressure and temperature or you could use a more portable experiment showing any change in the photo electric effect or an even lighter set up displaying variation of light intensity on a screen from a calibrated light source that might seem more esoteric but I believe the same principle applies The big problem with all of them including Bill s is that they involve several elements plus another one that of calibration and measurement No it s not just a matter of accuracy it s the

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  • Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident
    that there is reason to suspect that Valentich who was a very young and inexperienced pilot may have been on a drug running mission Audio of the debate was broadcast in Don s show Dark Matters Radio and you can download it here from this link http tinyurl com p9jvru3 snip If Klass wasn t a paid shill for the dis information sections of the US Intelligence communities I would be really surprised Imagine making the leap from four life jackets on a four place airplane which was required by the air regulations when flying over water whether the seats were filled or not to a drug smuggler Klass worked for an aerospace magazine yet seemed to be oblivious to the workings of the aviation community The man was shameless and an embarrassment to not only to himself but the community he worked for Thanks for the URLs Guiliano Don Ledger Rather than hard cash Klass s reward was more likely in the way of information fed to him which could then be printed in AW ST by himself or others at that organ thereby scooping others such as Janes etc No question that Phil was unscrupulous whenever he thought he could get away with it Twice on Larry King he expressed strong negative opinions about books David Jacobs and Kevin Randle that later in the show he admitted he hadn t read His letter to the Canadian government about me was typical trash from him It is interesting that his papers are at the American Philosophcal Society Library in Philadelphia But his correspo ndence 20 years or so with me isn t Perhaps he didn t want people to know he paid me 1000 for providing 14 examples of documents from the NSC using the same style and pica

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  • Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident
    0200 Subject Klass Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident Dear Colleagues Don Ecker former Director of Research for US UFO Magazine digitized and made available important audio of the 1992 debate in Denver between him and Phil Klass which was organized by Michael Corbin at the time During that historical debate Klass made the infamous comment about the Valentich incident suggesting that there is reason to suspect that Valentich who was a very young and inexperienced pilot may have been on a drug running mission Audio of the debate was broadcast in Don s show Dark Matters Radio and you can download it here from this link http tinyurl com p9jvru3 snip If Klass wasn t a paid shill for the dis information sections of the US Intelligence communities I would be really surprised Hi Don No evidence exists that Klass was anything other than who he represented himself to be a hard core you could say fanatical disbeliever I knew him and had an extensive correspondence over two decades I spent more time on the subject of Philip J Klass than perhaps is good for one Much can be said in criticism of Klass s excesses and in his lifetime

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  • Re: Binding Force Detector By Bill Beaty?
    more like Smith s apparatus Other ways maybe starting with the most cumbersome would be an apparatus showing any change of critical point where an element can change from gas to liquid to solid under equal pressure and temperature or you could use a more portable experiment showing any change in the photo electric effect or an even lighter set up displaying variation of light intensity on a screen from a calibrated light source that might seem more esoteric but I believe the same principle applies The big problem with all of them including Bill s is that they involve several elements plus another one that of calibration and measurement No it s not just a matter of accuracy it s the fact that the various elements can be affected in perhaps opposing ways and more serious that the calibrating and measuring devices will be affected too probably cancelling out any real effect A bit like Relativity effects neatly cancel out any possible ether measurements by the Michelson Morley Experiment which however is still written up as if it proved something Interesting suggestions Ray but this all started with the ETs instructions to Wilbert Smith on how to design a measuring instrument for detecting regions of reduced binding force Smith says we were informed that means for detecting them were easily within our technology and that we should build suitable instruments and then pay attention to what they registered http www treurniet ca Smith BindingForce htm Presumably the ETs knew what they were talking about and they did not share your concerns Also the device that Smith built did work He found large areas where the meter showed significant deviations as did a military pilot flying the North Atlantic In the latter test the instruments took on a permanent deflection

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  • Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident
    that Valentich who was a very young and inexperienced pilot may have been on a drug running mission Audio of the debate was broadcast in Don s show Dark Matters Radio and you can download it here from this link http tinyurl com p9jvru3 snip If Klass wasn t a paid shill for the dis information sections of the US Intelligence communities I would be really surprised Hi Don No evidence exists that Klass was anything other than who he represented himself to be a hard core you could say fanatical disbeliever I knew him and had an extensive correspondence over two decades I spent more time on the subject of Philip J Klass than perhaps is good for one Much can be said in criticism of Klass s excesses and in his lifetime I a non admirer said much of it You couldn t say however that he didn t sincerely believe the stuff he dished out Hi Stan and Jerry I was often staggered by the simplistic simple minded really explanations of various UFO encounters made by Klass during his time at the skeptic helm Given the man s intelligence his was another of those weird personalities like Donald Menzel who would ignore 90 percent of a report while fixating on the other ten percent that could possibly explain the case away as something prosaic while ignoring their own training particularly Menzel whose background was in physics and astronomy Klass s background was technical but in each case these two were prepared to throw out their training in order to come up with ridiculous explanations I don t believe that either of these two were doing this out of fervent disbelief but were acting on another agenda They are gone now but others seemed to have stepped into

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