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  • Nice Low-Key Two Contactee Presentation
    and Howard Menger two hours http tinyurl com ppmrr3f I have long considered George Adamski a fake and I was surprised to hear seemingly responsible and sane associates talk about George as if he were in their opinion the real deal I was very interested in some of the footage taken by Adamski particularly later into the first hour of the video of his saucer It had always looked to me like a lighting fixture the portholes seeming to be heat vents The video footage of interest showed this saucer hovering for several minutes and the shape of the rim was distorted The spherical landing gear was being retracted and extended alternatively I was surprised to hear a couple of ex military officers and an ex NASA employee take Adamski seriously and claiming to have checked Adamski s photos for evidence of fakery What was great about this video is that it was done the way all UFO documentaries should be done except for the unfortunate woo woo intro it was all people talking in nice daylight venues and none of that awful woo woo music Made me wonder if there may be something to the contactees stories Eleanor White

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m15-005.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • France's GEIPAN & Chile's CEFAA Formal Co-operation
    occurred off the MSM whiteboards last week when two foreign governments formally agreed to collaborate on UFO UAP research Representatives from GEIPAN and CEFAA the agencies charged with collecting UFO data for France and Chile respectively met for the first time at a conference in Greensboro N C last month and discovered a wealth of common ground in their approach to the phenomena snip More at site Here is what General Bermudez shared with me back in 2000 on a similar note SEPRA was predecessor of GEIPAN at the time with Jean Jacques Velasco as its head This year was held in Chile from march 27 to april 2 the International Air and Space Fair FIDAE 2000 It is one of the world s largest aeronautical shows organized every two year by the Chilean Air Force FACH at Santiago s Los Cerrillos Airport A series of ufo events took place during four consecutives days at FIDAE including a press conference a closed workshop and two day symposium titled UFO Analysis Investigations and Perspectives for the New Millenium open to all attendees of the expo The group finally makes an energetic call to international cooperation at the level of governments and

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m16-002.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • "How Do You Talk To An Alien?"
    4 today that URL should carry a listen again link soon lasting for a week or so maybe and perhaps with a little hunting around you might be able to download the MP3 file There were contributions from N American and European scientists arguing both ways one guy disclosed that a survey of the public s message to an alien was generally welcoming BUT almost always contained the word BUT i e but others might be antagonistic aggressive The old hat Hitler s speeches are still radiating outwards was re hashed IIRC it s at 73 light years now as was the difficulty virtual impossibility of finding a Rosetta Stone or Babelfish to convey meaning to an alien interestingly if a race communicated only by metaphor you could not find any meaning in their words even if you know their dictionaries grammar and syntax because you don t know their metaphors What I found interesting as an observer of the BBC was that the final part of the program and hence the message the BBC wants you to take away was much darker Hawking s warning etc plus tales of predatory carnivorous raiders just waiting for any peep out of

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m17-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: "How Do You Talk To An Alien?"
    s message to an alien was generally welcoming BUT almost always contained the word BUT i e but others might be antagonistic aggressive The old hat Hitler s speeches are still radiating outwards was re hashed IIRC it s at 73 light years now as was the difficulty virtual impossibility of finding a Rosetta Stone or Babelfish to convey meaning to an alien interestingly if a race communicated only by metaphor you could not find any meaning in their words even if you know their dictionaries grammar and syntax because you don t know their metaphors What I found interesting as an observer of the BBC was that the final part of the program and hence the message the BBC wants you to take away was much darker Hawking s warning etc plus tales of predatory carnivorous raiders just waiting for any peep out of a fledgling civilization I just finished reading the book by Bret Oldham Children Of The Greys Warning do not read this late at night when alone I too have had some experiences but nothing like what Bret went through However it does seem that communications are telepathic or by an inner sense to oneself conveying a feeling Most of the aliens he encountered had no emotions and I have the impression they are seeking or need to feed from our emotions perhaps our souls I agree with Hawking that caution is very warranted At the end of the book Kathleen Marden has a chapter on the steps we would take if we encountered an alien race on another planet and of course the final step would be to make ourselves known The reason I mention this and again from my own viewpoint is that I think we need critical mass for acceptance What I mean

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m18-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • ETs Probes Already In Solar System?
    As they logically say a civilization millions of years ahead of us and cosmology now says some intelligent life could be around five billion years older than us would be likely to have technology that is invisible to us and our instruments The article goes on to rehash Fermi s paradox which still over impresses the media who fail to see the weaknesses of its assumptions Maybe check www perceptions

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m19-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: ETs Probes Already In Solar System?
    couk com bigthorts html fermi for a more rational assessment by astronomers I e that a really advanced civilization would think of us as lower than insects more like bacteria Does any one else see the contradiction here Maybe that is what an advanced humanity would think if it continues on its present course This is blatant anthropomorphization An advanced civilization should see all life as precious including insects and

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m19-002.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: ETs Probes Already In Solar System?
    Say Mathematicians gives the probability of the Solar System having been visited and maybe studied long term by robotic probes as quite high As they logically say a civilization millions of years ahead of us and cosmology now says some intelligent life could be around five billion years older than us would be likely to have technology that is invisible to us and our instruments The article goes on to rehash Fermi s paradox which still over impresses the media who fail to see the weaknesses of its assumptions Maybe check www perceptions couk com bigthorts html fermi for a more rational assessment by astronomers I e that a really advanced civilization would think of us as lower than insects more like bacteria Rational How absurd Insects and bacteria cannot build nuclear weapons We have exploded 2000 The biggest one released the energy of 50 Million tons of dynamite Should we Earthlings who after all killed 50 Million people during WW II and destroyed 1700 cities decide to take our brand of friendship actually hostility out there we could use nuclear fusion to go to nearby stars Hardly what insects and bacteria can do This is consistent with the crazy

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m19-003.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: ETs Probes Already In Solar System?
    snip Hello William and Stanton I understand your pained sensibilities and am not stating a personal opinion only the presented evidence to date In fact a personal opinion is difficult to state or even form as over recent years accumulating evidence has forced many folk to make reappraisals I think there s three main areas 1 Martyn Stubbs disclosure of NASA films have shown that there are extra ordinarily large entities maybe not engineered non biological craft visiting the Earth s atmosphere daily seemingly attended by small super fast probes or even scouts capable of interacting with human technology 2 Research by Jacques Vallee et al seems to show that UFO ET phenomena have existed for centuries and that a proportion of such events are of a non physical highly subjective nature 3 There are traces of several anomalous processes in our own past maybe extending into the present First the world wide legend of four previous races of humans dating from a pre historic period when historians say world wide communication was impossible Second the proven but fearfully ignored existence of humans or humanoids with two or three times our brain capacity the so called long headed rulers whose impossibly large skulls can be found around the world as can the rather distorted skulls of ordinary humans whose parents have apparently tried to imitate the long heads by manipulating or binding their babies skulls Third the unaccountable fact that some of the earliest civilizations where long heads were visible seem to have had strangely developed attributes I e early Egypt had superb architectural skills which they lost over subsequent millennia and even the British Museum commented that Egyptian writing appears to come into use almost ready made N b long heads are seen in New Kingdom skulls Akhenaten and

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jul/m20-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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