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  • Re: The List Fades To Black
    51 0500 Subject Re The List Fades To Black Errol Sorry to hear of the demise but wanted to thank you for all the hard work and effort you put in to it May you have more time to enjoy life Happy Holidays Stan Friedman Listen to Strange Days Indeed The PodCast At http www virtuallystrange net ufo sdi program These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO

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  • Re: The List Fades To Black
    you ve done Though mostly a silent reader I was an avid reader and appreciate the time and effort you put into UpDates I ve been greatly educated and at times somewhat bewildered by submissions but it has always been a pleasure to see the UpDates emails in my inbox Merry Christmas and enjoy the rest of your retirement Adam Listen to Strange Days Indeed The PodCast At http www

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  • Re: The List Fades To Black
    2013 05 35 10 0500 Subject Re The List Fades To Black Very best wishes to you for a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year You have made an important contribution to ufology over the years and we thank you for this Kathleen Marden Listen to Strange Days Indeed The PodCast At http www virtuallystrange net ufo sdi program These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates

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  • The List Fades To Black
    List witness the dramatic drop in List bound traffic of the last few years So the plan is to mothball the List and for Glenn Campbell to take back the Archive by this coming New Year s Day via his hosting company Glenn wrote the script that made the Archive work and originally hosted it The post nul will also be retired at the end of the year The Archive s addresses depending on how you access it should not change Nor should the search facility Should because until we actually move the Archive we won t know I m grateful to all those who contributed 90 00 posts to UFO UpDates over these many years increasing the awareness and knowledge of the phenomena and my ufological education My thanks to Glenn Campbell for his advice and support over the years and for taking over the Archive for the benefit of succeeding generations of the seriously interested I ve been retired for the past six years tho there are still things on my bucket list to be completed such as the digitising and uploading of several hundred hours of my Strange Days Indeed radio program to virtuallystrange net Trusting that

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  • Obama is bringing back former Clinton White House Chief of Staff solicitor and CEO John Podesta as an advisor Podesta also served as Co Chair of the White House Transition Team following Obama s election as President However there appear to be several areas of significant differences of opinion on major issues between Obama and Podesta Among the areas of disagreement as listed in an article posted by Time s Zeke J Miller are major issues such as Drone Secrecy NSA Spying and yes you guessed it UFOs Even the most casual observer of the wild world of Washington politics would wonder why Obama would bring Podesta s brand of disenchantment on major tactical issues back into the White House squadron of minds On the surface this seems like Barack is leaning into a right hook Is Podesta sticking to his guns when he made public statements in 2002 at The National Press Club in Washington DC against the White House by stating It is time for the government to declassify records that are more than 25 years old and to provide scientists with data that will assist in determining the real nature of this phenomenon Watch video for the

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  • Good Bye Lloyd Pye
    Pye Via Grant Cameron on Facebook A message from Joanne Summerscales Hello All I am writing to let you know in case this news has not reached you that the impeccable inimitable Lloyd Pye left this plane on the same day as Nelson Mandela s funeral He died at 6 15pm CT yesterday with his family in his mother s arms What an incredible legacy this gentleman has left for us and I feel privileged to have known him interviewed him and to have spent some time with him more recently in the UK in September It seems that another amazing researcher and human being has had to leave in my mind far too early maybe he has very important work in other dimensions to do or maybe he had just done what he had to Either way I feel his leaving keenly and hope that those in whose hands he left the stewardship of further development of the Starchild Project material can keep it going I am sure that is the smoking gun of evidence if ever there was one Listen to Strange Days Indeed The PodCast At http www virtuallystrange net ufo sdi program These contents above are

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  • Four US States Report 139 November Cases
    37 0500 Subject Four US States Report 139 November Cases Source Roger Marsh Examiner Com http tinyurl com o5t3r3p December 6 2013 National UFO Alert Four States Report 139 November Cases Roger Marsh The National UFO ALERT Rating System has been updated for December 2013 with California Texas Pennsylvania and Florida moving to a UFO Alert 3 as the highest reporting states during the month of November 2013 filed with the Mutual UFO Network MUFON California was the leading high reporting state in November with 56 cases down from 77 October cases 70 September cases 97 August cases 91 July cases 72 June cases 67 May cases 47 April cases 59 March cases 53 February cases and 63 January cases Those states in a UFO Alert 4 category with 13 or more reports include New York North Carolina Ohio Missouri Michigan Tennessee Arizona and New Jersey All other states move to a UFO Alert 5 category with lower numbers of UFO activity The Watch States with 10 or more cases are Georgia Washington and Wisconsin More at site Listen to Strange Days Indeed The PodCast At http www virtuallystrange net ufo sdi program These contents above are copyright of the

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  • Briefing Document To Canadian Parliament - NORAD
    describe what was actually seen One would expect that once the pilot stated that YQQ CF 18s have contact 85 some type of description of the craft or its activity would have been made That this did not occur appears peculiar The CF 18s either made contact or they did not In addition if the unknown s were a flock of birds as blithely suggested by Minister MacKay he is asking a member of the public to believe that a species of ornithoides is capable of flying at 35 000 feet and that this species of birds could somehow have eluded CF 18 Hornets one of the most sophisticated jets in the NORAD arsenal This notion is completely irreconcilable and specious For Minister MacKay to respond in this manner is either a hollow attempt to obfuscate facts or it indicates he was is totally out of the loop in gaining access to information from his deputy ministers other officials within his own portfolio and from NORAD concerning craft of unknown origin entering Canadian airspace in an unauthorized manner Other matters to consider within the NORAD EVENTS STATUS REPORT The most disconcerting aspect of this particular event seems to imply that NORAD with the massive facilities technologies and resources at its disposal appears not to have been in control of Canadian airspace at least in this particular instance This also raises the questions how often do these kinds of incidents occur that NORAD jets are scrambled to chase and unsuccessfully pursue unknown tracks and does this incident and others like it mean that craft of unknown origin are able to enter Canadian airspace with impunity The language in the lines immediately following the astounding confirmation of contact by the pilot s with the unknown s is indecipherable due to its technical jargon making it impossible to determine what the pilots saw as they made contact One would as mentioned above expect some category of description of the alleged contact Curiously this did not occur The line previous to the YQQ CF 18s have contact statement by the pilot reads Time to target for CF 18s is 90 secs 85 This statement in the NORAD log clearly demonstrates the CF 18s were in fact pursuing and approaching something The following page in the NORAD log clearly indicates in more clear language that another aircraft an LR 35 MEDEVAC jet made either visual or radar contact with the unknown s The LR 35 jet reported that their aircraft could not keep up with the unknown s This also implies straight and level flight NOTE the LR 35 Lear jet has a maximum speed of 530 mph Mach 0 81 This portion of the event occurred at 35 000 feet As one who has flown aircraft before only pressurized aircraft are able to fly in this rarified flight environment ruling out a small aircraft as well as birds No foreign craft were identified The other associated documents obtained by ZlandCommunications from Library and Archives Canada other AIA requests and other sources provides absolute verification and proof that Canadian officials took the matter of unidentified flying objects very seriously Meetings discussions and other forms of exchange demonstrate government officials placed more than trivial priority on the matter of flying saucers Together with the 2001 NORAD SECRET Status Events Report these pieces of verified documentation provide converging lines of evidence that the Canadian government considered and still considers the UFO phenomenon as real and of high interest otherwise why would internal memoranda have been executed Furthermore it remains clear that these unknowns or as they are commonly called UFOs are elusive and possess flight capabilities enabling them to out maneuver and elude our most sophisticated aircraft The ZNN press release identifies documents obtained by ZlandCommunications that clearly indicate the following 1 A NORAD SECRET Status Events Report reveals 2 NORAD CF 18 jets were scrambled to chase three UNKNOWN TRACKS in 2001 out of COMOX AF Base BC Contact by one or more of the NORAD CF 18s was confirmed 2 In the same report an LR 35 MEDICAL EVACUATION jet out of Anchorage Alaska apparently indicated contact of some kind and that their aircraft could not keep up with the UNKNOWN TRACKS See NORAD SECRET Status Events Report in press release 3 Ancillary Documentation Three other specific documents obtained by ZNN clearly indicate that Canadian joint intelligence committees and a Senior Radio Engineer from Transport Canada openly exchanged memoranda and letters that discussed UFOs flying saucers Links to these documents are provided in the ZNN press release One memo from the Defense Research Board describes how plans were to be made should a UFO land on Canadian soil Yet another to the Joint Intelligence Committee outlines how the RCAF would follow the lead of the US Air Force in keeping information about UFOs away from the public The third document outlines a visit to Washington DC by a Senior Radio Engineer in the Department of Transport His inquiries and conclusions are summarized in a three page letter His meetings with Washington and Canadian Embassy officials among other stunning and dramatic details revealed the following UFOs are real 85 and they are rated even higher than the H bomb See Wilbert Smith Memo in the ZNN press release Pursuant to the government s own documentation as revealed by ZNN it is now incumbent upon elected representatives to review evidence residing within their own government archives and respond in a thorough manner to the unacknowledged issues raised by its own catalogued and certified data Therefore we respectfully request the Minister of Defence to respond in writing to the questions below We would also request a response from the Leader of the Opposition the Hon Thomas Mulcair the Leader of the Liberal Party Mr Justin Trudeau and as well a response from the Hon Charles Sousa whom I have previously briefed on matters related to this issue on February 9 2009 at his constituency office in Mississauga Ontario Canada For the Minister of National Defence The Hon Rob Nicholson 1 How often are you as the Minister of Defence informed or briefed by NORAD officials about Canadian jets being scrambled from any Canadian Air Force base or NORAD to pursue craft of unknown origin within Canadian airspace 2 a Have you and to your knowledge have previous Ministers of Defence or the Prime Minister ever been briefed on the UFO matter b Have you or the Prime Minister ever been directed by anyone including officials holding positions of authority in Canadian or American military or intelligence agencies not to discuss or answer questions publicly or in the House of Commons on matters concerning unidentified flying objects UFOs or the possibility of their extraterrestrial origins 3 Has this matter ever been discussed in Cabinet between you and the Prime Minister or with officials in the Canadian Armed Forces CSIS the RCMP or CSEC 4 What total costs are involved in launching one or more jets on a sortie like the one described above to engage in the pursuit of unknown tracks or targets that have entered Canadian air space and detected on radar 6 What is your response to and assessment of the memorandum penned by a representative of the Canadian Department of Transportation to his superiors and specifically the statement UFOs are real 85 rated even higher than the H bomb See Wilbert Smith Memo in the ZNN press release 7 Please provide ZlandCommunications with a yearly or monthly estimate of the regularity with which Canadian jets are scrambled to pursue unknown tracks or non correlated targets within Canadian airspace 8 Will you make yourself available to answer questions from sitting members of the House of Commons and the press regarding this specific NORAD incident Furthermore will you respond to questions during Question Period about the NORAD protocols and policies that dictate the scrambling of Canadian jets 9 ZNN respectfully requests that you forward to us a full assessment of your investigation of the NORAD SECRET Status Events Report in question Please include any and all results you may obtain referring to log entries on page three date index 01 09 12 time index 12 13 54 regarding CONTACT made by the scrambled jets CADSMCC YQQ CF18s have contact at 350 85wm and if there is any way of establishing if both or one of the CF 18s reported this CONTACT with the unknown s and what they may have seen 10 In the context of the documentation in this correspondence and the UFO files in the possession of the Canadian government please state in everyday language the Canadian government s position and policies on the phenomenon of UFOs Thank you most sincerely for taking the time to respond in writing to our enquiries For The Hon Thomas Mulcair Leader of the Opposition 1 How often are you informed of or briefed by NORAD or other government officials about Canadian jets being scrambled from any Canadian Air Force base to pursue craft of unknown origin over Canadian airspace 2 Are you prepared to raise these issues by asking the Min of Defence and the Prime Minister the same and additional questions as stated above to the Min of Defence the Hon Ron Nicholson by ZNN on the floor during Question Period If yes how will you proceed If no why not With due respect will you inform ZlandCommunications in advance of the timing and scheduling of such questions 3 After due consideration of the NORAD SECRET Status Events Report what is your personal reaction and objective professional assessment as a solicitor to each of the following a The NORAD Secret Status report log and b The remaining documents contained in the ZNN press release 4 Do you wish to be briefed further on the substantial documentation regarding the UFO issue both as catalogued among the 9500 files in the Library and Archives Canada repository as well as those documents residing in international research files emanating from and that have been released by France Brazil Peru the UK Denmark and other G20 countries If yes how shall we proceed If no why not 5 As a solicitor we ask that you render your opinion on the following assertion that The level of secrecy employed by the Canadian government about the UFO matter the redactions in the NORAD document 2001 as well as the evidence provided by the government s own memos and the 9500 files on the UFO matter contained in Library and Archives Canada provide sufficient and legal grounds upon which to pursue this matter either through the Department of Justice or the courts or both 6 Will you personally call for a Parliamentary committee or establish a committee within your own caucus to investigate the historical and current involvement of the Canadian government its military and intelligence agencies in the management of the matter of unidentified flying objects as portrayed by the 9500 UFO files and other documentation that can be provided by ZNN and other Canadian researchers ZNN would be pleased to answer and consult with you on any questions you may have on this very significant issue Thank you most sincerely for taking the time to respond in writing to our enquiries For Justin Trudeau Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada 1 What is your reaction and response to the NORAD SECRET Status Events Report and other memoranda and documents submitted in the ZNN press release 2 Are you prepared to raise these issues by asking the Min of Defence and the Prime Minister the same and additional questions as stated above to the Min of Defence the Hon Ron Nicholson by ZNN on the floor during Question Period If yes how will you proceed If no why not With respect will you inform ZlandCommunications in advance of the timing and scheduling of such questions 3 After due consideration of the NORAD SECRET Status Events Report 2001 what is your personal reaction to and objective professional assessment of each of the following a The NORAD Secret Status report and b The remaining documents contained in the ZNN press release 4 Do you wish to be briefed further on the substantial documentation that is available regarding the UFO issue both as catalogued among the 9500 files in the Library and Archives Canada repository as well as those documents residing in international research files emanating from and that have been released by France Brazil Peru the UK Denmark and other G20 countries If yes how shall we proceed If no why not 5 Will you personally call for a Parliamentary committee or establish a committee within your own caucus to investigate the historical and current involvement of the Canadian government its military and intelligence agencies in the management of the matter of unidentified flying objects as portrayed by the 9500 UFO files and other documentation that can be provided by ZNN and other Canadian researchers ZNN would be pleased to answer and consult with you on any questions you may have on this very significant issue Thank you most sincerely for taking the time to respond to our enquiries For the Hon Charles Sousa Minister of Finance MPP Mississauga South 1 Will you share the briefing document with members of your caucus the Minister of Energy in Ontario Mr Mulcair and the Min of National Defence that I provided for you at our February 9 2009 meeting at your constituency office during which we discussed issues related to the matter in question 2 After due consideration of the NORAD SECRET Status Events Report 2001 what is your personal reaction to and objective professional assessment of each of the following a The NORAD Secret Status report and b The remaining documents contained in the ZNN press release I would be pleased to again meet with you regarding this unfolding matter Thank you most sincerely for taking the time to respond in writing to our enquiries Note ZlandCommunications has a large compendium of Canadian documentation which demonstrates the involvement of the RCMP other Ministers of Defence as well as other agencies and government departments in the matter of unidentified flying objects This and other information which is beyond the scope of this brief is available to all government officials and the press upon request to ZNN Summary and Comment Notwithstanding the authority influence and expertise of most elected officials it is commonly known that for the most part those elected who represent citizens in Parliament are completely uninformed about and prejudicially kept out of the loop concerning the matters discussed in this briefing document Political figures are quite often the last to find out about comprehend and internalize what the masses have known all along Secondly the UFO phenomenon has been the target of a 65 year old campaign of ridicule and disparagement by the US Air Force the US government and US media Canada according to the documents in our press release followed suit Suffering from this well orchestrated derision the UFO matter has never been taken seriously until now Fear of the unknown nature of the UFO Extraterrestrial hypothesis has driven this issue underground morphing it into a conspiracy laden subject with no credibility one that has become the butt of yarns and jokes among an uninformed media and its indolent public Thirdly government and media have always rejected and refused to discuss real data real witness testimony and real documents on this matter as well as the ever increasing number of UFO sightings throughout the planet Yet this information exists and has gradually allowed the UFO issue to claim a certain notoriety The NORAD log and the associated Canadian documents discussed in this brief are a only small part of an upsurge in expressions of what is occurring in our skies strengthening the crescendo of indisputable evidence NUFORC The National UFO Reporting Center in Washington State has catalogued over 5700 UFO sightings in 2013 alone It is estimated by PSI that some 150 million people have seen a UFO since 1947 The Canadian UFO Report says Canadians reported just under 2000 UFO sightings in 2012 CNN reports that 80 of the American public believes the US government is hiding information on UFOs and their possible extraterrestrial origin This data is a fraction of international records Space constraints do not permit the vast military data to be included As indicated above these documents are available upon request Finally information on the UFO matter is a highly restricted commodity Granted some files have indeed been released by governments however they are merely dumped into the public domain with no clarification or comment by the government bureaucrats who issue them Military and intelligence agencies see to that quite carefully From 2008 to 2011 the UK released over 12 000 UFO files none of which produced a scintilla of political effusion An Internet buzz occurred for a while however there was no political reaction from the UK government To achieve an understanding of this aberration you are invited to review the well recognized Edward Taus CIA document entitled Flying Saucers item 3 outlining how the CIA planned to manage any and all details of the UFO matter by keeping government interest and concern about UFOs out of the press and away from public scrutiny However the current public expos E9 and disclosure of these kinds of documents along with those included in this brief and the many thousands of others runs counter to government obfuscation documented evidence indicates UFOs do exist and they are of real concern proving unrelentingly and absolutely that the UFO issue has indeed been discussed analyze politicized and sequestered at the highest levels of governance on the planet The many international encounters of UFOs cited by pilots police military personnel and citizens and the wide variety of documents and witness testimony involving unidentified flying objects are moreover ignored and relegated to the realm of myth falsehoods hoaxes and nonsense Nothing could be farther from the

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