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  • UFO Today Mag On MoD 'Final' File Release
    Officials decided to close the UFO hotline as it was deemed to have no defence benefit and resources devoted too it where taking staff away from more valuable defence related activities In a briefing to then defence secretary Bob Ainsworth in November 2009 Carl Mantell of the RAF s Air Command suggested the MoD should to reduce the UFO desk which is consuming increasing resource but produces no valuable defence output He said that in more than 50 years no UFO sighting reported to MoD has ever revealed anything to suggest an extra terrestrial presence or military threat to the UK Officials also predicted a backlash from ufologists over the decision noting they had deliberately avoided formal approaches to other governments on the issue amid fears of international collaboration and conspiracy An official MoD statement said The Ministry of Defence has no opinion on the existence or otherwise of extra terrestrial life However in over 50 years no UFO report has revealed any evidence of a potential threat to the United Kingdom The MoD has no specific capability for identifying the nature of such sightings There is no defence benefit in such investigation and it would be an inappropriate use of defence resources Commenting on the release of the files Dr David Clarke author of the book The UFO Files said The last files from the UFO desk are now all in the public domain People at home can read them and draw their own conclusions about whether the truth is in these files or still out there Sightings recorded in the newly released files include a letter from a school child asking for the truth about UFOs after she had seen some strange lights a report via the UFO hotline by someone who had been living with an alien

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m21-006.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Release Of 'Remaining' MoD UFO Files
    ufos nationalarchives gov uk We can expect the usual media frenzy One additional feature is an app for the Iphone see http tinyurl com lzmuodx itunes apple com though how much use it will be remains to be seen the GIGO principle applies I think Garbage In Garbage Out I would have thought that you enjoyed the media frenzy and the attention So now the real work begins prying loose

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-001.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Scattered Not Unified
    we must be cautious when dealing with the narratives from abductees Again you are making assumptions based on your own biases instead of just listening objectively to what Andreasson herself said about her experiences You have shown your bias in favor of physical ETs in spaceships abducting people and you ve dismissed their accounts of experiences that don t fit within that belief system like poltergeist activity increased psychic abilities and other phenomena that don t fit within a technological framework So what if an alien decided to use their projection abilities to induce a spiritual experience in Betty Maybe they are interested in spiritual beliefs and used Betty to study them Actually and to be honest with the alleged Andreasson abduction I lean toward it being a hoax When I first read the books back in the late 80s or early 90s I was put off by the claims I wanted to believe that she had real experiences and just perhaps confabulated the spiritual aspects As time went on I began to lean toward it being a hoax When the family member came forward saying it was a hoax that was the icing on the cake for me It s certainly possible isn t it Even from your mechanistic reality tunnel it s not outside the realm of possibility But you re ready to dump it as confabulation while accepting other details Possible only in the sense that nothing is ever a zero percent chance of being a reality I ve touched on this practice by various Ufologists of tacking things on to the UFO phenomenon So not only does science have to accept that UFOs are real but they must also accept psychic abilities E S P reincarnation astral travel crystal healing though projection dowsing and just about

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-002.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Scattered Not Unified
    aliens have shown their faces to the abductees many times before so it makes no sense to all of a sudden begin to mask their faces This would be one example of confabulation Confabulation can be simple and it can also be complex or intricate in detail Part of the abduction researchers job is to separate confabulation from the real experience However new abduction researchers may not be aware of this This is why we simply cannot take everything abductees claim at face value From the description given I understand that Jacobs tried to explain away what the abductee said as an invention i e confabulation simply because it did not fit the narrative he preferred or expected But there may have been a good reason for that deviation Perhaps the abductee was particularly fearful during this particular experience and the ET thought hiding the face would help allay the fear Or this was the first encounter with this particular ET individual and he was simply following ET procedure for first encounters In either case the report that the faces were hidden would have been true No Here s what happened with regard to Jacobs Jacobs is skeptical of the claims by abductees that the aliens have done something to them to blur their faces as to prevent fear or panic in the abductee Jacobs is skeptical of this because the aliens have shown their faces to abductees on many occasions starting with the first abduction So Jacobs keeps this in his mind From the way Jacobs worded it I do not believe Jacobs points his finger at them and calls them liars I believe he s a bit more crafty and as he pushes on with the hypnosis he gets them to realize they can see the faces after all and that their belief the aliens did something was an invention That s just the way I took it from hearing this from Jacobs My point was that without ground truth data labeling a part of the abductee s experience as confabulation requires a subjective judgement that may not be correct The label should not be used to dismiss the experience as reported Otherwise the researcher would be adding his her own perspective i e making things up That issue may arise in a scenario but in this example it s not apt I suggest that unless a person is prone to serious mental aberrations or known to be lying his her claims about what happened during an alien abduction experience should actually be taken at face value But the claims should not be judged as true or false until there is a better understanding of the phenomenon Ufology is in such a sad state that even when an alleged abductee is caught lying caught hoaxing even on multiple occasions the person is still paraded around as if they were 100 legit So obviously your take would not help us much This whole thing makes me wonder if lab

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-003.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Sightings Trebled In 2009 As MoD Axed X Files
    imagination of Earthlings for nearly a century And now the Ministry of Defence has revealed its latest batch of reports from people claiming a close encounter in the UK The sightings only go up to 2009 as that was the year the British X Files desk was closed Spookily that year also saw a trebling in the frequency of UFO reports the newly declassified files show More than 600 alien

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-004.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Scattered Not Unified
    Not Unified Several abduction researchers have spoken out that parts of the abduction narratives are fantasy Jacobs gave an example of abductees who claim the aliens do something to them to cause their faces to appear blurry to prevent the abductee from seeing their faces The abductee usually responds this is done to lesson their fear Jacobs believes this is confabulation a fantasy the abductee has invented and added to the narrative Jason Below is what Jacobs actually says http www ufoabduction com memories htm The brain can take memories of aliens and turn them into more commonly conceived of images For example people routinely remember seeing owls raccoons monkeys snakes and even spiders when they were actually seeing alien faces Furthermore during the abduction event itself the aliens are quite accomplished at neurological manipulation which can result in the enervation of specific neurological pathways By stimulating these pathways the aliens can make people see things that are not there in objective reality These envisioning procedures take place in people s minds and have the appearance of reality Much more relevant to this discussion at his site http www ufoabduction com memories htm Incorrect That would be Jacobs writing about screen memory not confabulation Confabulation is done with the person not realizing what they are doing The opposite would be some one who deliberately chooses to lie and deceive Screen memory was first discovered by Hopkins who borrowed the concept from psychology In psychology screen memory is a phenomenon that can occur with abuse victims or people who have gone through an incredibly traumatic experience In screen memory a fake memory is created to mask the traumatic event The key thing to realize is that in it s role as a concept in psychology the screen memory is created by

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-005.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Scattered Not Unified
    an invention It has been argued that false memories can actually be implanted using hypnosis even unintentionally as he pushes on with the hypnosis he gets them to realize they can see the faces after all So which memory is more likely to be true My point was that without ground truth data labeling a part of the abductee s experience as confabulation requires a subjective judgement that may not be correct The label should not be used to dismiss the experience as reported Otherwise the researcher would be adding his her own perspective i e making things up That issue may arise in a scenario but in this example it s not apt I think it is especially if hypnosis was involved in arriving at the truth I suggest that unless a person is prone to serious mental aberrations or known to be lying his her claims about what happened during an alien abduction experience should actually be taken at face value But the claims should not be judged as true or false until there is a better understanding of the phenomenon Ufology is in such a sad state that even when an alleged abductee is caught lying caught hoaxing even on multiple occasions the person is still paraded around as if they were 100 legit So obviously your take would not help us much Abductee claims in common should lead to only interim conclusions about the how and why of what s happening This is because alien intelligences seem to be involved and by definition are unpredictable from a human perspective An abductee s claim that is unsupported because it is truly a confabulation should fall away over time without being so labeled I disagree with the notion that false memories fall away with time How can they

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-006.shtml (2016-02-13)
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  • Re: Grant Cameron's 'Mental Effects'
    accordingly can be incorporated and directed with them by mental control by experts I hope someday to be able to do it but I am informed that it takes at least 10 years of concentrated training for the experts to learn how to do it So Smith would say that telepathy is a natural ability that can be enhanced by technology Dr Eric Walker also dropped hints that E S P played a huge role with regard to understanding the UFO phenomenon The problem is how Walker would know this The same question would apply to Smith How would he know Some people are just dead set on this belief that humans possess this seemingly magical ability and that one day we will learn how to control such I believe this is a pipe dream and represents perhaps a childish perception of the phenomenon I can only add that I can scour the earth in an attempt to find a person with advanced psychic powers capable of turning my t v channel by mere thought alone I can also push the button on my remote Both routes may perhaps produce results if time is not a factor to consider As far as usefulness and ability to replicate or reproduce the action I believe technology is what we should focus on Sure there have been various studies on alleged psychic powers However we are currently in the infant stage of artificial or technological telepathy I don t know why so many UFO researchers pretend as if this and similar advances are not happening or are somehow not of concern And for those out there who think that the answer is a mixture of both routes technology with advanced understanding of alleged psychic powers then my question would be why Why still

    Original URL path: http://ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jun/m22-007.shtml (2016-02-13)
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