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  • Re: David Sereda's Diminished Gravity Demo?
    Fri 10 May 2013 17 49 29 0400 Subject Re David Sereda s Diminished Gravity Demo From J Maynard Gelinas j maynard gelinas nul To UFO UpDates Toronto post nul Date Fri 10 May 2013 18 43 55 0800 Subject Re David Sereda s Diminished Gravity Demo snip Thanks for your reply and all the detailed commentary and links I d rather just address the specifics of the experiment though Bushman then takes a nonconductive tube and a conductive tube I think copper and drops cylindrical neodymium magnets down each Well low and behold down the nonconductive tube it drops accelerating at 1g just like it ought on planet Earth But down the copper tube it strangely slows down Verrrrry weird Not weird at all Lenz s Law predicts that A falling magnet induces a current in the tube and the induced current sets up a field which opposes the mechanical action of the falling magnet But the original experiment was to drop two objects of the same outside shape through air I don t see how Lenz s law would operate in air Beyond the through air trajectory there were two magnets bolted together with their fields in opposition

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  • NY Times Expose On Alien Abductions
    leaves behind many mysteries If you re abducted by alien beings are you physically absent This happens to be an important issue for the media shy people gathered one afternoon last July on the porch of Anne Ramsey Cuvelier s blue Victorian inn on Narragansett Bay in Rhode Island once called the most elegantly finished house ever built in Newport Co designed in 1869 by a cousin of Ralph Waldo Emerson s it has been in Cuvelier s family since 1895 when her great grandfather bought it as a summer getaway from his winter home blocks away just as the Gilded Age cottages of the Vanderbilts and Astors began springing up across the island redefining palatial extravagance Still imposing with its butternut woodwork ebony trimmings and four story paneled atrium frescoed in the Pompeian style the harborside mansion turned B B seemed a fittingly baroque setting for the group of reluctant guests Cuvelier describes as not a club anyone wants to belong to She had gathered them to compare experiences as well experiencers a term they prefer to abductees and to socialize free of stigma among peers Cuvelier an elegant and garrulous woman in her 70s isn t one of them But she remembers as a teen in the 1940s hearing her father Rear Admiral Donald James Ramsey a World War II hero muttering about strange flying craft that hovered and streaked off at unimaginable speed and she s been an avid ufologist ever since I want to get information out so these people don t have to suffer she says Nobody believes you You go through these frightening experiences and then you go through the ridicule So for a week each summer for almost two decades she s been turning away paying guests at her family s Sanford Covell

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  • Ufology And Psychiatry
    Association s DSM 5 seeks to codify more illnesses So the psychiatry debate erupts again Most of you will know my opinion of psychiatry that it s mainly a profession of charlatans w more than a few abusers covertly hand in glove with Big Pharma We ve already had a debate on that summary of evidence here Ufology And Psychiatry Summary http ufoupdateslist com 2012 apr m11 011 shtml Shan

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  • Re: Critique Of Dolan's Sourcing & Conclusions
    snip Thanks Maynard for a very interesting and informative post We ve discussed the putative A I danger and or lack of likelihood in the past and personally think that all we get from Dolan s apparent enthusiasm is something we can learn from hard experience That is to let some time elapse after reading a good well argued book and then to give careful thought to any discrepancies or

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  • Re: David Sereda's Diminished Gravity Demo?
    in 2003 it was found to be unstable with a half life of 200ms The guy is less credible than a cat burglar caught holding lock picks in a safety deposit vault while claiming to the police he was just using them to scrape his nails clean Big Red Flag Getting back to the story with Sereda and Bushman Well Bushman replies after referring to Lazar watch this Bushman then takes a nonconductive tube and a conductive tube I think copper and drops cylindrical neodymium magnets down each Well low and behold down the nonconductive tube it drops accelerating at 1g just like it ought on planet Earth But down the copper tube it strangely slows down Verrrrry weird Sereda is quite impressed Wow And now the fuse to that ACME rocket strapped to Sereda s back is lit But lets transition to Mr T A Manic s video explaining Lenz s Law It just so happens that our T A Manic demonstrates exactly the same phenomenon using one copper tube one glass tube and two magnets Down the glass tube the magnet falls at the expected rate And yet down the copper tube whoa it falls slowly Just like Bushman s demonstration did Only Mr T A Manic very quickly and very loudly because he s manic explains that this is due to a rotating current imparted to the tube by the magnet which causes a kinetic reaction He then goes and calculates this effect across three different scenarios just so students get the idea how to apply the math behind Lenz s Law Success in learning Exactly the same demonstration Getting back to Bushman and Sereda Mr Bushman then shows a coil wound around a torrus and places it atop a conducting aluminum plate He applies high voltage and current and low and behold it jumps Anti Gravity Sereda is shocked Why how did you do that That burning fuse is getting mighty close the base of Sereda s ACME rocket Pretty soon now JUMP CUT the obvious question where Sereda asks Bushman to show him the effect with that electromagnet placed on top of a glass coffee table thus edited out Sereda and Bushman move to a discussion about how Mr Bushman drilled out a hole between two neodymium magnets and then ran a threaded bolt between the two pointing at the same poles As we know with magnets opposites attract but the same poles repel So Bushman says he used nuts to screw down the magnets close together It was difficult work Then there was silliness about putting this contraption inside a faux rock that we ll ignore but which is funny all on it s own Well Bushman says to Sereda you know about Galileo s experiment at the Leaning Tower of Pisa Right Sure So I dropped my contraption and a rock at the same time and guess what happened Noooo Sereda replied now flying off the ledge under the power of his ACME

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  • Re: David Sereda's Diminished Gravity Demo?
    From J Maynard Gelinas j maynard gelinas nul To UFO UpDates Toronto post nul Date Sat 11 May 2013 23 16 30 0800 Subject Re David Sereda s Diminished Gravity Demo From Eleanor White ewraven1 nul To post nul Date Fri 10 May 2013 17 49 29 0400 Subject Re David Sereda s Diminished Gravity Demo From J Maynard Gelinas j maynard gelinas nul To UFO UpDates Toronto post nul Date Fri 10 May 2013 18 43 55 0800 Subject Re David Sereda s Diminished Gravity Demo snip Thanks for your reply and all the detailed commentary and links I d rather just address the specifics of the experiment though snip My point is that there is no experiment There s a piece of paper Mr Bushman holds up to Sereda the text of which the camera doesn t show that Bushman claims some person signed as an affidavit for having witnessed the test But that s not an experiment There s no multiple runs no public data showing any measured change no graphs of the data presented There are no replications There is no formal description for how to replicate There are no publications in peer reviewed journals Nothing

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  • Re: David Sereda's Diminished Gravity Demo?
    08 36 25 0400 Subject Re David Sereda s Diminished Gravity Demo snip The above says that the scenario that Bushman describes is the same as Mr Manic s but it s not as simple as that In Mr Manic s scenario the magnet is dropped down a copper tube and a magnetic force opposing the motion comes with the current induced in the copper tube In Mr Bushman s case the magnets are not dropped down a tube but appear to be dropped in air down a stairwell or elevator shaft There is a possibility that current was induced in the metal of the building and the field resulting from that current might then have slowed the fall of the magnets But also the fields are different in the two cases Mr Manic dropped a single magnet down a copper tube while Bushman dropped the more complex magnetic field of the two magnets bound together down either the stairwell or elevator shaft It is not at all obvious that the two scenarios are equivalent Certainly there is sufficient ambiguity that we cannot say for sure that Lenz s Law can explain Bushman s claimed effect Would the induced field from the building infrastructure have been strong enough to retard the velocity of the magnets The following quote was apparently invented to minimize Bushman s claims since as far as I can tell he makes no such statement in the video See this Bushman continued as he held out a sheet of paper with writing the camera can t discern This is a paper signed by someone you ve never met who will attest to the fact that he witnessed this event once and that proves anti gravity Bushman does say that he has signed statements from the nine witnesses

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  • Pulling Some UFO UpDates 'Threads' Together
    attractors or pre post mental damage psychiatry Today found a must read memo for The Metaphysics of Science An Account of Modern Science in Terms of Principles Laws and Theories by Craig Dilworth here s the Springer description http tinyurl com caezhwo Looking at other pro con reviews found why it s a must read in the Metapsychology review http tinyurl com d2cju2o a The core principles of causation is given a non supernaturalist but not necessarily physicalist interpretation at one point p 57 but it is unclear what non physicalist interpretations Dilworth think the principles imply as I discuss below In his comparison of Western science with parapsychology magic Chinese science and spiritual claims of Western religions he states that Western science has adopted an exclusively physical understanding of uniformity of nature substance and causation Dilworth seems open to non physical interpretations of the core principles from studies of these alternatives which seems to have a bearing on our first debate b Dilworth omits consideration of psychology or psychiatry as sciences It would be useful to clarify the ways his account distinguishes accounts of mind he presumably accepts as scientific from those he thinks non scientific which appealed to

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